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Hard to believe less than 300Mb for a x64. Probably no x86 support and only a command prompt or pure explorer. Well my talk about no x86. I know a dev preview for x86 was released, but I was referring to old info where MS said Win 8 wouldn't have a 32bit version. Obviously they are backing off on that a little bit, HOWEVER it is interesting that the Dev Tools version only is 64bit. As far as my "size" talk... Looking at the default Win PE 4 size of about 500MB, it doesn't have OS parts like your project does. Even my current WinPE 3 x64 boot images are not full OSes (or attempts) they are deployment platforms only. Very few additions as far as extra content or drivers... I'd say less than 10MB. So this is why I have small files. I admit the Win PE 3 x86 I have on USB Key I made with Make_PE3 is a lot bigger!

JFYI, a lot of members on MSFN (myself included) has no idea what may or may not happen on the other forums. So if there is some sort of problem between members, it cannot be public on MSFN. This isn't a place for that sort of thing. Also, there isn't a need to take sides about whose Win PE maker is better. Its not a competition. The fact that someone may want to make a new one, and not work with existing projects, does not automatically mean there is something wrong with those projects. Of course, comparisons to other projects can be done! I can see that maybe there is something that Make_PE3 does good that Winbuilder doesn't and vice versa. Who knows about all the other Win PE makers out there. There will always be gap-bridging projects and attempts and that is just fine. Besides, its not like anyone is charging for their PE maker. Basically what I see for this thread is that a basic plan must be made. Its the same as any other real programming (or even a database project). Plan out everything first then figure out how to tackle it. If that means you want to compare and contrast other Win PE makers, that's fine. Just make sure to keep things on topic. B)

(bolding is mine) Is a far too strong shock for my aging heart...... jaclaz Yes but that is the initial size. I haven't tried it yet, but further along you'll see the final size is about 500MB or something. That is still a lot bigger than the current PE sizes I deal with, which is less than 300MB for a 64bit WinPE. But in a related note, Windows 7 Embedded's minimal image size using the Digital Signage method is 1.6GB too.

Did you see this link from Arwidmark?

What about the third (features) option? Or worst case, there may end up being a bunch of threads on how to modify your Windows 8 to have the Windows 7 features, similar to what you have done... Presuming such things will work by that point.

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There is some trick to make a USB key boot so a Win7 ISO (contents) can be on it. I never knew the exact trick. The only USB key I have that can boot a WinPE was made with Make_PE3. For more info on USB Windows installs, you can check out this section which is specifically for such things: http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/157-install-windows-from-usb/

You may be correct about that, even tho it isn't documented! I just tried to use an Intel DQ67OW and enable UEFI boot, but the OS still isn't booting and I am getting the same results. My emails are unanswered at the moment, but I know my reps are at BUILD so I shouldn't be so surprised. Update: I was able to do a new install from the DVD that put the OS on the GPT disk and formatted the full volume. However there is no MSR partition... Here was how to do it. 1. Enable UEFI boot. 2. Use boot menu and choose UEFI DVD (there is a regular DVD there too, even tho this is USB DVD drive) 3. Boot off Server 2008 R2 DVD (usb key inserted with answer file) 4. At the first page, SHIFT+F10 for CMD. Use Diskpart to clean DISK 0 and CONVERT GPT 5. Continue install as normal. That's it. So I will try to capture this image and redeploy it with Imagex and see if that works.

You should be able to tell if they are MFC applications with ResHack or a similar program. It would be interesting to know if the stock MFC icon exists within those EXEs. if they don't then this could be something else.

I could definately see a lot of us waiting for Server 8 to use instead of Windows 8 on our desktops.

That time frame it would defiantely be a 1.0 controller. USB 1.1 controllers came out shortly before the USB Zip 100 drive to give a time frame. The reason I know this is because I worked for Iomega at that time and MANY people (in the year 2000) had computers with USB 1.0 controllers. The behaviour of a USB Zip 100 on a 1.0 controller was either: 1. Didn't work at all 2. Was really slow or data corruption 3. BSOD/Lockups The reasons for this is that USB 1.0 only supported unidirectional data transfer. So things like keyboards, mice, microphones, webcams... these were fine for the most part. Even those legendary Altec Lansing speakers (being the first ever USB device to have drivers built into a version of Windows) would probably be fine. Any devices that needed to send and receive data would have a heck of a time on a USB 1.0! However USB 1.1 solved this problem as it allowed data to be sent and received. Many of the early controllers got a bad rap just because they were 1.0 and people didn't know until they tried to use a 1.1 device on it. Some notable ones were SiS, VIA and ALI, all of which usually used the term "Open Host Controller" in Device Manager. As for how to specifically tell if you have a 1.0 or 1.1, you'd need to test out another confirmed (send/receive) USB 1.1 device. It wouldn't have to be a Zip 100, you could use a USB Floppy drive. But even then, it may not mean so much, since WiFi USB adapters, especially on older USB controllers (even 1.1) can be flakey. I had similar problems with getting USB WiFi to work on my Win98 (and PCI WiFi also) with either BSOD, Windows Protection Errors or plain not working. And my motherboard has USB 2.0 ports in it! If all else fails, you can try to find a USB 2.0 PCI card if your PC has a slot available for it.

I didn't think you could pass an argument through wupdmgr to Internet Explorer, so your solution is probably the best method.

MFC is the Microsoft Foundation Class. For some programs, it is fine to have this icon, but programs that normally have other icons shouldn't. As to why this has happened for you, I am not sure.

Also remember that if you run it under the System account, it can't interact with the user.

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JFYI maybe you can try using a hybrid MBR, info here: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/ http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/hybrid.html jaclaz Its always good to know there are methods and people willing to figure out new ways to do things. However this isn't anywhere close to being a pet project that would allow me to use such methods. Any method I find to do this needs to be fully supported by Microsoft, as they will be used on systems meant for resale. BTW I am checking on the whole "can an image made on MBR be used on GPT disk" question... emails away!

The Task Manager is something dreamy! One tab even shows dependent processes! The non-tools version doesn't seem to have a command prompt? Its interesting, but It would be nicer with a touch-screen for sure. Tomorrow I'll check out the games and try to tweet with it. Then I'll try to get it to do a BSOD, that would be great!

Its due to the default XLS file has 3 sheets. You can try measuring it, they give grants away for similar questions!

Things I've figured out so far: 1. You can't install it from within Server 2008 R2 SP1. It basically says that OS is un upgradable! 2. If you boot the DVD, the "advanced" drive options doesn't give the ability to delete partitions... but you can Format them... hope this works.

Oh btw, most Atom CPUs nowadays support 64bit. As a testament to this, I haven't had to use a 32bit WinPE on teh WDS in so long, Its been disabled for over a year now to save menu space. Regarding the "uninstallability" it is referenced on this download page: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516

I read that if you install this, you can't uninstall it. So be careful if you install it on your regular computer. Use a VM or such!

I know, I said this is "Flashing Cursor Month" earlier. B) I may wait until tomorrow and try a different board. Anything I can find about using a GPT "disk" on an Intel server board has to do with enabling RAID, rather than using a single 3TB disk in the system. Also, it appears this board (among other current products) do not support either installing or booting Windows from a GPT disk, but again it refers to the Embedded RAID controller. http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/s5520sc/sb/CS-031582.htm I hear maybe I can use one of the Sandy Bridge (6x ) series Desktop boards to do this. But if this isn't supported either I am wondering why I got this project. Of course, I can always go back to the "Why would you want 2TB+ for your boot volume" question but customers then think you are making them feel dumb for wanting such a thing.

Yes, that is why there is a NIC driver in it. This particular board has a problem with its NIC that makes Windows unusable if the default Microsoft driver is used.

You may need to get a memory dump. Check the sticky in the XP forum (where this topic will go)

So perhaps the original info saying that there will be no 32bit release is true, since the Developer Tools are only available in 64bit. I'll check this out, but this topic is more News than Win PE.