guess the fact ive been using winrat for years, and only tried 7zip when it was in beta(bit buggy), but you prompted me to do a second evaluation, i might stick with it now. As for the registering issue with winrar, lets just say i had a patch. hmm...not to nice icons for view in details(not to say that winrar was better), not as good gui, gut i like the right click menu on archives. Seems to run stable, and extracts rar quite quickly. im switching. thanx for the reminder