Yeah, but Spheris said you can only slipstream "type 1" hotfixes. Slipstreaming "type 2" hotfixes will break things. So sliptreaming type 1 hotfixes aren't going to help anything when you cant do "type 2" hotfixes. Even if you only have 1 hotfix that can't be slipstreamed you are going to have to be careful any time it asks for the cd. This frustrates me to no end. What's the sense of slipstreaming any hotfixes when you can't do them all? Saves a few minutes of install time, sure. Makes it a lot harder to maintain your installation cd too. You have some hotfixes slipstreamed, but some hotfixes running in another batch, and then more hotfixes running even later in the install because they patch stuff you couldn't install before the first bunch of hotfixes, etc. So far nobody has shown me a good reason to slipstream any hotfixes when you can't do them all. GRRRRR!