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I agree with you and I am pretty sure, that your problem will be solved after having inserted the Crucial M4 SSD.Regards Fernando

@ DBF68: You are right regarding the ability of Windows XP to take just the suitable drivers and to avoid the wrong ones, but this is only valid for PnP drivers, which are installed after the first reboot, that means during the second (GUIMODE) part of the OS installation, when the detailed hardware detection and PnP driver installation takes place. XP users will never get a BSOD, if they have integrated absolutely unusual or corrupted PnP drivers, not even with a wrong architecture (mixing 32/64bit drivers). Things are totally different with the AHCI and RAID drivers, which have to be used by the OS Setup already during the first=TEXTMODE part of the installation. The OS does not know by its own the AHCI/RAID Controller details of the system and has no idea regarding the appropriate textmode driver(s), which are present within the i386 resp. amd64 directory of the OS image. That is why the XP Setup presents a textmode driver Pop-Up window and the user has to decide, which of the available AHCI or RAID Controllers (and the related driver) should be chosen (installed) by the OS. Any wrong textmode driver may induce a BSOD.

@ DBF68: Thanks for your post, which may encourage FBratwurst to continue his efforts to get any Windows OS installed onto his nForce 780a chipset system after having set the NVIDIA nForce SATA Controllers to AHCI mode.. I disagree with you regarding the simultaneous integration of AHCI and RAID drivers. That doesn't make sense and reduces the chance to succeed with the OS installation. @ FBratwurst: The statement of DBF68 verifies, that it is possible to get Win7 installed onto an nForce 780a chipset system running in AHCI mode without the necessity to load or integrate any special AHCI driver. This is what I suggest for you: 1. Set the nForce SATA Controllers to AHCI mode. 2. Unplug the power cable of your hdd and make sure, that your SSD is connected with port0 of your mainboard. 3. Boot off the Win7 media (DVD or USB) and try to get Win7 installed onto your SSD. If the Win7 Setup should not detect your SSD, retry the Win7 installation onto your hdd. This is just a test to find out the reason for the failure with the SSD. Regards Fernando

@ FBratwurst: Welcome to the nLite Forum as part of the MSFN Forum! Your problem has nothing to do with nLite and nothing to do with the topic of this thread. If you want to get help, you should post your issues within a Forum, which is supporting nForce storage driver problems. The nForcersHQ Forum (>LINK< or the NVIDIA Forums (>LINK<) may be a better address. Usually it is no problem to get Windows 7 installed onto a hdd or SSD after having set the SATA Controllers to AHCI mode, because the OS has a generic MS AHCI driver in the box, which should be able to detect and manage all nForce AHCI systems. If the installation should fail nevertheless, you should ask the NVIDIA support for a suitable nForce AHCI driver, which definitively works with your nForce 780a Southbridge. I doubt, that there is any official nForce SATA driver available for the DeviceID DEV_07B5. Regards Fernando

Just open the folder "All" of the package and integrate any of the INF files (no matter which one). NLite will copy them all inclusive the CAT files into the special nLite drivers folder and the XP Setup will just install those INF files, which correspond to your special Intel chipset devices.By the way: The Intel chipset "driver" sets do not contain any real driver (that are files with the suffix .SYS), but just text files with some informations about how the Intel chipset devices have to be managed by the OS.

@ ericore: Thank you for taking the time testing some different Intel AHCI driver versions with your VirtualBox ICH8M system running in "Vista Compatibility Mode" and creating/uploading the 32bit XP driverpacks, which have been customized by yourself. Here is my comment: This is an important message.AFAIK the 32/64bit Intel MSM drivers v8.9.8.1005 WHQL, which I have linked within the start post of this thread, are running fine with all Intel ICH8R and ICH8M SATA AHCI Controllers unless they are used from scratch in a VirtualBox running in "Vista Compatibility Mode". This seems only valid for the XP installation within a VirtualBox running in "Vista Compatibilty Mode". It is not a good idea to simply mix different iaStor.sys file versions with iaAHCI.inf and txtsetup.oem files, which were created and designed for another Intel driver version.Even if the driver mix will work (no BSOD while restarting), you will get wrong informations regarding the in-use driver version, if you open the Device Manager (right click onto the AHCI Controller > "Properties" > "Drivers"). Please remember: The real driver is the iaStor.sys file, all other files of the Intel MSM or RST driverpacks are just text files, which will give the needed informations about how to get the driver (=SYS file) installed and integrated into the OS. TheDevice Manager just shows the driver details (date and version), which is layed down within the iaAHCI.inf file and not the real (=iaStor.sys) driver details (shown by doing a right click onto the iaStor.sys file > "Properties" > "Details"). Tip: If you want to mix SYS and INF files of different driverpacks, you should customize the driver details (date and version) within the INF files. I think, it's the latter and only if being used in "Vista Compatibilty Mode". Since I neither have an Intel ICH9 or ICH10 system nor using the VirtualBox, I am not able to test it, but a lot of AHCI users with an Intel ICH8, ICH9 and ICH10 Southbridge (without any letter after the "ICH8/9/10") reported, that they succeeded with the installation of Windows XP after having integrated the actual Intel MSM/RST drivers of the v8.x, v9.x and v10.x series, where I had added the missing HardwareID' entries within the iaAHCI.inf and txtsetup.oem files.What I do not definitively know is, if the XP installation worked in a VirtualBox with different "Compatibilty Modes" too. Thanks for your advice. I will add a notice regarding this point.The start post of this thread with the guide about how to integrate the Intel AHCI and RAID driver into a Windows XP CD by using nLite has been written the firtst time in Noveber 2007 and was never intended for users, who want to get Windows XP installed just in a virtual environment. Maybe I will add freshly modded 32/64bit Intel MSM drivers v7.8.0.1012 within the start post of this thread for VirtualBox users like you.Here are the download links: >32bit Intel MSM AHCI & RAID driver v7.8.0.1012 mod by Fernando< >64bit Intel MSM AHCI & RAID driver v7.8.0.1012 mod by Fernando< Maybe you ore someone else can test one of these drivers and report here about the result. Additional notice: According to my knowledge all actual Intel RST drivers work in the VirtualBox too, the only problem is to get them installed from scratch. That is why affected users may have to integrate one of these old and outdated MSM drivers of the v7.x.x.xxxx series. Once XP is up, it should be possible to update the Intel AHCI/RAID driver to an actual RST driver version. That is the critical point: Until now we do not really know, if the old and outdated Intel MSM drivers of the v7.x series will support the actual Intel chipsets (with an ICH10, 5-Series or 6-Series Southbridge).By the way: The old and meanwhile outdated Intel AHCI/RAID driver technology is named "Intel® Matrix Storage Management" (= MSM and not SMS). Thanks again for your efforts clearing up these special VirtualBox problems! Regards Fernando

@ braundy2003: Welcome at MSFN Forums! After having done a Google search I found out, that your Panasonic notebook has an Intel chipset and an ICH7M Southbridge. The active SATA Controller is the "Intel® ICH7M/MDH SATA AHCI Controller". So what you need to integrate is a suitable 32bit Intel AHCI driver, which does support this Controller. You will find the driver and a guide about how to integrate it within the start post of >this< thread. My tip for your system: Integrate the 32bit Intel RST textmode driver v10.6.0.1002 WHQL and check just the listed "Intel® ICH7M/MDH SATA AHCI Controller", when you get the nLite textmode driver popup window. Regards Fernando EDIT: Since you have posted your problem in different Forums at the same time (>LINK<), you should have a look into all of them, if you really want to get a solution..

@ encore:: Thanks for your statement regarding the possible origin of the BSOD's you got and thanks for the link to the patched and the original old Intel MSM AHCI/RAID driver v7.0.0.1020 dated 02/12/2007.. Nevertheless I am missing the answers to my questions. By the way: It is not my "patch", which doesn't work with VirtualBox systems, it is the behaviour of Intel's actual AHCI/RAID drivers (= SYS files), which belong to the "Intel® Rapid Storage Technology (IRST)" series. This new AHCI/RAID driver generation is very sensitive regarding the hardware environment.Users, who want to install Windows XP by using the VirtualBox, should integrate an Intel AHCI/RAID driver of the meanwhile outdated "Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (IMSM)" generation. The latest available Intel MSM driver is v8.9.8.1005 dated 04/05/2010. You can find the "modded" 32/64bit versions of this driver within the start post of >this< thread (Chapter II, second driver set). I am pretty sure, that they will work with your system using the VirtualBox. Regards Fernando

@ ericore: I am not sure at all, that the BSOD you got is driver related. You may do a look into >this< page. Before I can try to help you, I need some additional informations: Which mainboard (manufacturer and model name) has your pc system? Which Intel driver (exact name) did you integrate into the XP image? Which Intel SATA AHCI Controller did you check, when you got the TEXTMODE driver popup window while letting nLite integrate the driver? Are you sure, that you are using an Intel SATA Controller, which has been set to "AHCI mode" within the BIOS? Please have a look into the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" section of your Vista Device Manager. Is there any Intel SATA AHCI Controller listed? If yes, what is the name of the Controller? How much RAM has your computer? Regards Fernando

It depends on the Southbridge of your mainbord.Did you try the 64bit driver, which I had linked within post No 149? Regards Fernando

Although I do not really know, what you mean, I will try to answer:All Intel AHCI/RAID driver packs, which are linked within the start post of this thread, can be used with Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8. Regards Fernando

I recommend to use the AS SSD benchmark tool. You can get it >here<. Yes. Alternatively you can always switch the AHCI driver between the AMD and MS one within the Device Manager by doing a right click onto the AHCI Controller > "Update Driver Software" > "Browse my Computer" > "Show all compatible devices" or similar. Then you always will get the option either to choose the "Standard AHCI1.0 Serial ATA Controller" (using the generic MS AHCI driver named msahci.sys) or the "AMD SATA Controller" (using the AMD AHCI driver nmed amd_sata.sys). After the next reboot your SSD will be managed by the AHCI driver you have just chosen.Regards Fernando

That looks pretty good and verifies, that I have uploaded the correct AMD AHCI driver for your system. Each of the listed "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controllers" has 2 ATA Channels, whereas the AMD AHCI Controller doesn't have a double channel system. That is quite normal and nothing to worry about. No, I am not sure about that. According to the statements given by AMD the actual AMD SATA AHCI drivers named amd_sata.sys do support TRIM, but only if they are running with an actual AMD Southbridge (SB6xx and SB7xx systems obviously do not support the TRIM command).So if your mainboard has an AMD chipset, which belongs to the SB8xx series, you can be optimistic, that the TRIM command will be supported. My tip: Compare both AHCI drivers (from MS and AMD) and decide yourself, which is the best for your system. Regards Fernando

It is not an installation "on top", but a simple replacement of a driver by another completely compatible one.If I were you, I would test the AMD AHCI driver and compare it with the generic MS AHCI driver. Since the MS AHCI driver will still be available for the OS and can easily be reinstalled from within the Device Manager, it will not be risky at all. Enjoy your SSD running in AHCI mode and try to find out the best SATA AHCI driver for it! Regards Fernando

Correct. 1. The driver link I have posted yesterday, is only suitabe with the 32bit version of Windows 7.Since you have written about a Windows XP > Windows 7 upgrade version, I believed, that you are running Win7 x86 now. 2. According to the INF file entries the AMD AHCI driver v1.2.1.0296 will support your special AMD AHCI Controller. To make these things clearer for you and other visitors of this thread, I have just edited my last post and added the Win7x64 version of the driver. So you will now find both 32bit (for Win7 x86) and 64bit (for Win7 x64) versions of the AMD AHCI driver 1.2.1.0296 WHQL for Windows 7. Hoping, that this helps Fernando

Yes, that is the exact procedure (even easier: right click onto the "Stanard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller" > "Update Driver Soiftware") I doubt, that the AMD driver v3.2.1540.24 of your MB CD will work with Windows 7 (all AMD AHCI drivers named ahcix86.sys are only designed for Windows XP). So it is better to take the actual AMD AHCI driver set 11.8 or - if available very soon - 11.9.Alternatively you may try - depending on the architecture of your Win7 installation (32bit or 64bit) - one of the small driver packs containing just the actual AMD AHCI driver v1.2.1.0296 for Windows 7 (32/64 bit) dated 04/15/2011, which will support the AMD AHCI Controller of your system: 32bit AMD AHCI Driver v1.2.1.0296 WHQL for Windows 7 x86 64bit AMD AHCI Driver v1.2.1.0296 WHQL for Windows 7 x64 Additional tip: It might be possible, that the generic MS AHCI driver named MSAHCI.SYS is the best choice for managing your SSD, because this driver definitively does support the TRIM command, which will automaticly clean the SSD, whereas this function is not clear with the AMD AHCI drivers That is why I recommend to find out yourself, which of both AHCI drivers is the best choice for your special system. You can easily change the AHCI driver without installing anything new: Do a right click onto the AHCI Controller > "Update Driver Software" > "Browse my Computer" > let it show all compatible devices > choose the AHCI Controller you want (MS AHCI or AMD AHCI). After the next reboot the OS will automaticly use the related AHCI driver from Microsoft or AMD. This way you can easily compare them both, for example by running a benchmark test like AS SSD.. Regards Fernando

Windows 7 will never install a wrong driver unless you force the installation despite all warnings. Your SSD is definitively running in AHCI mode, because the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" section of the Device Manager shows the generic MS AHCI Controller.Regards Fernando

@ sdubs: I am sorry for my delayed answer, but I am in holidays and didn't have any internet connection for the last days. Congratulations! That is nothing to worry about. "IDE" doesn't mean "Native IDE", but "SATA AHCI mode" in this case. I don't know why the Sata ports 1-4 are not shown by this BIOS screen, but they obviously are working. Yes, if there are Win7 drivers within it. If you are searching for the latest AMD drivers, you should look into the AMD support and driver pages. I recommend to disable all unused SATA, IDE and eSATA Controllers within the BIOS.Furthermore I would set the optical drive (your DVD ROM) as fist bootable device. The hdd/SSD should be the second one. Regards Fernando

@ sdubs: After having downloaded and studied the manual of your mainboard I found out the following: All 6 internal SATA ports named Sata 1-6 are AMD SB850 ones. So your SSD is connected with an AMD SB850 SATA Controller anyway (regardless the Sata port 1-6). The HardwareID's you gave me are not the ones of the Controller, which was connected with your SSD. The SATA mode of the Sata ports 5-6 can be set separately within the BIOS. Advice: Make sure, that your optical drive is connected to either the Sata 5 or Sata 6 port. Additionally your mainboard has an JMicron® JMB361 P-ATA and SATA Controller. The JMicron P-ATA Controller manages the 40-pin IDE port, whereas the eSATA port is an external one. Yes, the port "Sata 1" will be the best choice for your SSD. You probably don't need to load any special driver during the Win7 installation, because the OS has an in-box SATA driver, which will detect your SSD during the OS installation, even after having set the SATA Controller to AHCI mode. Once Windows 7 is up, you can replace the generic MS AHCI driver by the actual AMD AHCI driver from within the Device Manager.By the way: The tool nLite doesn't support the Win7 installation at all. Here are some additional tips regarding the BIOS SATA settings within the "Main" > "Storage Configuration" section after having connected the SSD with SATA Port 1 and the optical drive (if it is a SATA one) with SATA Port 5 or 6: 1. "OnChip SATA Channel": Has to be set to "Enabled" 2. "OnChip SATA Type": Set it to "AHCI" 3. "SATA Port5 - Port6": Set it to "Native IDE". Regards Fernando

@ rogerbar: I am sorry for the late reply, but I didn't realize your request earlier. Why do you want the meanwhile outdated driver named "32bit AMD/ATI SB7xx RAID&AHCI Driver v9-4 (WHQL)"? There are much newer and probaby better AHCI/RAID drivers from AMD/ATI available. Furthermore I am not able to send you the requested driver within the next 4 weeks, because I am in holidays and far away from my home. @ sdubs: Here is my comment: These are the HardwareID's of the device named "JMB36X Standard Dual Channel PCIE IDE Controller" and belongs to a JMicron SATA port. If your SSD really is connected to that port and you want to get Windows XP installed in AHCI mode, you have to load/integrate the suitable AHCI driver from JMicron and not the AMD one.Please check the SATA port, where your SSD is connected. If your SSD is connected with any Jmicron SATA port, you have to integrate the JMicron driver instead of the AMD one.By the way: As far as I know it is not possible to do a direct upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7. If I am right, all your efforts to get Windows XP installed prior to the Win7 upgrade installation are useless. This is what I recommend for you: 1. Connect your SSD with the first AMD SATA port of your mainboard (usually Port0). The AMD SATA port will give you a better perfrmance than the JMicron port. 2. Set the AMD SATA port to AHCI mode within the BIOS. 3. Do a fresh Windows 7 installation onto your SSD. after having set the SATA Controller of your SSD. Don't enter the Win7 Upgrade product key you got (it will not be accepted). 4. Follow >this< guide about how to get the Windows 7 Upgrade version activated. Good luck! Fernando

@ Hyram: Welcome at MSFN Forums! Usually you should be able to use the hot plugging feature with all drives (except the system drive), if you have set the related SATA port to AHCI mode. Please check your mainboard manual and the BIOS settings regarding the eSATA port. Maybe it needs another AHCI drive. By the way: Your question has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Regards Fenando

Not sure what you mean or how to do this?I hope, that you know how to create a new folder from within the drive C. No, unfortunately I am not sure and am not sure how to be sure that I am. Can you advise on how to do this?Should I have also installed the drivers that are available on the MB disk? On this disk there are ASUS AMD AHCI drivers and raid drivers. Also, JMicron Drivers for ahci and raid. What are these? and do I need to also install these drivers in addition to your modded ones? What you need to integrate is the AHCI driver, which is suitable for the SATA Controller, where your SSD is connected.If your mainboard has SATA Controllers from AMD and JMicron, you should check, where your SSD data cable is connected. You can do it either by opening your desktop case and comparing the cable connections with your mainboard manual or by looking for the HardwareID's of your currently in use SATA Controllers from within the Device Manager (right click onto the SATA Controller resp. "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controllers" > "Properties" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareID's"). Regards Fernando

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@ sdubs: Welcome at MSFN Forums! It was not a good idea to copy the XP source and the driver onto the desktop (the path is too long for the nLite processing and this may produce problems). Advice: If you want to create a Windows XPCD with integrated SATA AHCI driver, you should create separate folders like "XPCD" and "AMD SATA driver" within the root of the system partition (drive C). Additional question: Are you sure, that your SSD is connected with an AMD Southbridge SATA Controller? Please let us know your system details (name and manufacturer of the mainboard). Regards Fernando

Hello Pablo, thanks for the details of your Win7 Device Manager. The "IDE ATA/ATAPA Controllers" section entries verify, that your computer is currently running in IDE and not in AHCI mode. Your actual SATA Controller setting is not a good idea, because you will get far better performance, if you would run your hdd in AHCI mode. The entry of your WD hdd within the "Storage Controllers" section seems to be wrong (should be within the "Drives" section). Please check, if you really see a "Storage Controllers" section, when you open the Win7 Device Manager. According to your present BIOS settings it should be no problem to get Windows XP x64 SP2 installed by booting off the original XP x64 CD, because the SATA Controllers running in IDE mode do not need any third party SATA driver. Please enter the BIOS and check the settings within the "Integrated Peripherals": "eXtreme Hard Drive (XHD) > should always be "Disabled" "PCH SATA Control Mode" > will currently be "IDE", has to be set to "AHCI", if you want the AHCI features "SATA Port0-3 Native Mode" > should be "Disabled", if you want to run all SATA Controllers in clean IDE (LEGACY) mode, but has to be set to "Enabled", if you want the AHCI features. Before you are going to change the "PCH SATA Control Mode" setting to "AHCI", you should read and possibly print >this< Microsoft web site. Otherwise you may not be able to boot into Windows 7 anymore. Regards Fernando