Quite an interresting tread. I have to agree with most of you, if we can't test drive it, how will we know if the motor runs or it's just being towed? Your live demo thingy..hmm.. You run the software and feed it with vira? And then what? You decide what's going into it and for all we know it could as well just be a slideshow! Hehe "dman" you say he sounded like "the real thing" I have heard some salesmen in my time and it's pretty easy to give the impression of knowing stuff and be proffesional, especially on the phone! Is it just me or have I heard this blocks executables before. Sounds like a firewall to me!? Eh I might be a n00b, dumb, ignorant, lamo or what have you. But I'm just not buying this "not, but still, sales act, just for practise, no trial version, but it's real, only to biggies, you're not worthy, finished but soon to be released".