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Just out of pure interest - is the title bar blinking in Chinese browsers when you press the New tab button?
I don't like the idea of using one of them, but maybe I should give it a try if it is not? I mean, Chrome devs will remove the "xp-theme" flag some day for sure.
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On 7/30/2023 at 5:22 PM, VistaLover said:
Correction
: Mozilla, aping Google 
to the letter, but with a delay of a few years, put Vista SP2 on the same boat as XP SP3; FxESR 52.9.x was/is the last version of Firefox to run on (plain) Vista SP2; release channel v53.0.x. could be "hacked" to launch there, too, but with serious shortcomings in the media playback department...
TL:DR: Fx 53.0+ requires Win7 SP1 and higher
(obviously, I'm not talking here about Vista's 64-bit Extended Kernel implementations 
) ...
Oh, sorry, of course you are right. I meant Win 7 and higher.
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Guys, does anyone of you have an AMD GPU from 2011-2013 and a Windows 7 install?
I have 2 rendering bugs in Chrome, one of which was inctroduced in autumn of 2019 (November or December) and is still not fixed, and the second one appeared in the 109 release (last official release for Windows 7 and 8/8.1).
Here is how the first one looks:
Way to reproduce: drag the DevTools windows partly offscreen and then return it back.
The second bug is related to drawing favicons on some sites (like Yandex mail and YouTube). Random part of the icon becomes white, and this area is increased over time as you switch tabs.
Here is how it looks (it happens even with a single opened tab):
I wanted to ask: can I somehow fix this by changing my rendering settings in official version 109?
UPD: Supremium by @win32 does not have any of these bugs, though the DevTools window border is looking kin of strange (top part is from Windows 10, coloured by the selected theme, and the borders are loke in native Windows 7 app).
UPD2: The devs are aware, but no fix is available still since February
UPD3: Enabling Override software rendering list setting did not fix the first bug with DevTools, but --disable-gpu-compositing startup key fixed the problem almost completely.
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On 4/15/2023 at 9:00 PM, D.Draker said:
BEWARE of that dodgy browser ! Using it will make you 100% unique !
Why ? The sneaky china fella injected a unique identifier right into the browser code !
Go here and you will see :
https://browserleaks.com/javascript
catsxp [object Catsxp]
Everyone will know you're using his browser !
Well, the same was true for Opera Presto (which had window.opera object). No one seemd to care much about it that days. Anyway, to use this object a website developer needs to know that such object exists, and only CatsXP devs know about it for the moment). Of course they can start forcing this thing around JS developers, but because the audience is way too small, no one will put effort in including this in the checks, I guess. There are commonly used solutions like Modernizr, which can make use of this info, but you can still write a userscript removing this object and apply it for all sites (in case the browser will allow you to delete this object, of course).
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On 3/1/2023 at 3:56 AM, D.Draker said:
Simple to explain, those who were still hanging onto Windows 7 is now moved on 'cause the browser support died off.
So the OS is simply dead 'cause no gaming drivers and no hardware since 2015. I have a Kabylake (2016) and win 7 can't even
proprely utilise the C sates on the CPU ! So no modern gaming , no browsing, no chrome on win 7 , etc.
Funny thing as of now, even Vista is able to use more modern chrome (with hacks , of course).
And windows 7 doesn't even have any usable form of ex-kernel.
AMD and NVidia dropped Win7 support only in 2021-2022. As for me, my 2 PCs use Intel processors form 2011-2013 (2nd generation Core i5 and 2nd generation 10-core Xeon). So everything is just fine with drivers and hardware on Win 7 from my point of view
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On 2/9/2023 at 8:51 PM, Cocodile said:
There's a lot of software and games that don't work on windows 7 already and for a long time.
And so was also true for Windows XP back in 2014-2016 (I personally was using it untill end of spring of 2020 or so).
On 2/9/2023 at 8:51 PM, Cocodile said:Major exodus had happened in 2017.
Why? New Firefox based on Quantum was fast and beatiful, with very few bugs (and the people who really loved Australis theme stayed on version 52 on XP and version 56 on Windows Vista and 7/8/8.1/10), it kept working without problems for quite a long time.
As for me - I never liked Chrome on Windows 7 because of thin and too light fonts. But I get used to it because a lot of sites in 2020-2021 completely stopped working in Firefox 62, and I personally did not like the UI changes they made in Firefox 79 when they introduced a new logo. So I got used to thin fonts and moved to Chrome.
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On 2/4/2023 at 7:39 AM, D.Draker said:
I totally agree with you, of course Chinese-owned Opera is also extremely high (need to spell it without quotes) spyware.
I thought that Opera is a Norwegian company with headquartes in Oslo...
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On 1/23/2023 at 8:39 AM, D.Draker said:
Also, don't forget - starting from 105 or so, everything is only soft, no hard rendering for windows 7 anymore.
Can you prove it somehow? I use version 109 now on Windows 7, and it seems that I still have hardware rendering on.
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On 11/13/2022 at 12:09 AM, D.Draker said:
How it could be scientific, if XP doesn't support ANY form of hardware acceleration, including skia . LOL
So much for your "tests".
I guess you are wrong, because on XP you can still use hardware accelerated:
- Video decoding
- Canvas rendering
- Animations rendering
- Web page rendering
I even turned web page rendering acceleration on and off via chrome flags and noticed the difference (on versions 45, 47 and 49).
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On 11/10/2022 at 5:53 PM, D.Draker said:
I have a question for you, how did you (or didn't?) solve the problem with gawdly awful (eye fatiguing)
fonts in newer chromes, since disable direct write was removed ?
Fonts are just wonderful for me on Windows 7 (but are much worse on Windows 10 and newer, haven't tried Windows 8/8.1, but I guess they are the same bad there).
Microsoft broke their font rendering since Windows 8 because of problems with fast page scrolling on mobile phones. Can give you a link explaining that. They just moved to grayscale antialiasing for a lot of fonts, that cannot be overriden in any way.
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On 11/10/2022 at 12:44 AM, D.Draker said:
I'd say his weird troubles, 'cause no one else had them. And he wrote only the Vulkan files gave him the troubles, not my method in general.
'Cause it finally worked for him.
The most important he (and looks like you too) missed in my instructions, you need to replace with blanks, not just "clean".
--disable-gpu will switch off ALL regarding the GPU, so I just have my doubts he followed the instructions precisely.
Sorry for asking, but why do you suggest to use that flag? I tried disabling GPU acceleration several times in the past, it makes scrolling and ani,ations much less smooth for me (Windows 7 x64, Core i5 2500K overclocked to 4.1 GHz, 16 Gb RAM, AMD HD 7850 GPU).
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15 hours ago, VistaLover said:
UXP still lacks a full and proper WC/CE implementation
What is it?
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Hello everyone,
I would like to report that YouTube stream chat is not working in New Moon 28 at all (in the latest version and in older versions too). i am testing it watching the recording, but I think things will be the same on a live stream.
Does YouTube need some UA override rule, or is this cannot be fixed at all? Even yesterday it worked (though incorrect, always showing up the first messages at any point of the video, but failing to load the actual ones or to scroll down). But now it just prints out a message, that I use an outdated browser...
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Please, remove the duplicates above. This forum is very buggy. Not only it does not switch pages correctly in Chrome 49 (last available on Win XP), but the same problem also happens in latest Chrome on Windows 7 (checked just now), and the redirect to the last message after posting also fails in Firefox 63 on Windows 7 (it is not so old).
I guess someone should make a bug report to the tech support. Maybe I will.
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On 3/18/2020 at 5:31 AM, VistaLover said:
Due to certain coding decisions taken by our maintainer ( @roytam1 ), the custom UXP fork branch he's compiling NM28 off has distanced itself from upstream (which already uses a different build system, i.e. official unstable PM29 is now being compiled from a dedicated PM repo, with official UXP as a module), so that the LPs currently produced by @JustOff are simply not compatible with New Moon; from past discussions, it is my belief that we are not to see any updated LPs for New Moon coming from @roytam1 himself, so I guess it's a task to be undertaken by the user community...
Can I help the situation some way? I have some knowledge in HTML and JavaScript. It would be good to make a full set of LPs for New Moon v28.
Also, I didn't quite understand why New Moon v27 is OK (compatible with the official LPs for Pale Moon).
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On 3/16/2020 at 8:20 AM, simonsat said:
I will not (not a specialist).
Very high-quality Russian does volkovysk Russian (RU) Language Pack 27.9.7, it inspired me to experiment. There is a lot of work and knowledge is desirable language. Example: We take the necessary version of Palemoon, it has two omni.ja files, you need to unpack them (open as archive). Find the localization of the en-US folder in them (omni.ja \ chrome \ en-US \ locale \ en-US \). In them we find the translation files * .dtd, * .properties and others. We also act with the * .xpi translation file of the language you need. Comparing the files with the original (en-US), we find the missing-extra lines and delete-add (we translate the added one). It's like in my opinion not a professional. A lot of work and thanks to everyone who does this. Sorry for the Google translation.
Maybe someone will be interested in my builds based on the builds of the respected roytam1. Unfortunately only RU-EN, more RU than EN.
You can add any language, but you need to translate some buttons of Custom Buttons.
arcticfox-27.9.19-win32-20200118-portable-ru-xpmod
Thanks a lot for the detailed instructions! :) But I would like to add a few cents from me. I noticed that all language packs for New Moon 28.8.4 (tried Russian and French, they both have the problem) lack some strings (or have some bug?), that prevents the Web Developer submenu to show most of its items (except the first two).
It seems to be a bug of New Moon, because I can't believe that so many people working on different translations for Pale Moon did not notice this thing! Can you verify it and tell if the problem is with translation packs (XPI files) or not? I already posted at Pale Moon translations subforum (though I forgot to tell that I am using New Moon, not Pale Moon itself), will check the answer tomorrow.
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3 hours ago, roytam1 said:
you may need a user-agent override for this site. put this line at the end of your pref.js:
user_pref("general.useragent.override.pornhub.com","Chrome");
Thanks a lot! This helped me to deal with the problem (I made the string similar to the one used in version 27.9.6):
user_pref("general.useragent.override.pornhub.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.9 Goanna/4.4 PaleMoon/28.8.0a1");Thought it's a shame that such big sites don't provide critical functionality when the UA string does not match expectations. The right approach is to detect the needed features.
First I thought the problem was that I had an outdated Flash Player 17, but when I installed the newest version nothing changed. So it was not the error in Flash or JavaScript, but just the result of UA check that led to "nowhere" in code, disabling any further actions.
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Hello guys,
Sorry for the topic I'd like to raise, but it seems that PornHub stopped working on New Moon 28.8: it loads, no errors in Web Inspector console, but the videos are not played. I can see the red plugin icon in the address bar, and when I click on it, the popup initially has no text (maybe the translation xpi file error), when I click "Show all" the text labels do appear, but when I click "Allow" nothing happens.
The Adobe Flash plugin is listed on about:plugins page.
Any ideas why it is happening? I know I should use version 28.9, but there is no translation pack for Russian language, unfortunately. I can live without it of course, but anyway.
Also this thing is happening in Chrome 49 (there is also another problem on this site with some thumbnails not loading due to SSL algorithm problem caused by Win XP SSL library).
UPD: what surprised me even more is the fact that it work just fine in New Moon 27.9.6 (build 2019-03-23)
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On 2/10/2020 at 9:18 PM, kuja killer said:
Thats the last possible thing i was thinking about, for the graphics hardware. I have a Dell Latitude D620 laptop, which is Intel GM 945 Graphics. I get errors and/or "blocked/blacklisted" in the troubleshooting info page.
https://i.imgur.com/jrLTZ25.png
https://i.imgur.com/tNJNHih.png
All the "force enables" with everything dont help as i mentioned earlier, to get past those errors or blocks. Is that why the opengl, webgl, and use hardware acceleration all dont do a thing ??
And according to this page, the only supported version not blocked is "4926" -- https://wiki.mozilla.org/Blocklisting/Blocked_Graphics_Drivers#Intel_cards
And this page ...the last possible update that was ever published for this model was 4814 - https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=984x8&oscode=ww1&productcode=latitude-d620#otherversion
So it wont even make a difference if i try to install that since I would of needed 4926 i guess, which is from Intel 945G ...not GM ..(a different motherboard type)
So i'm seriously screwed then huh ??
Have you updated your graphics card driver before the problem began? Maybe it can be a driver, not hardware issue
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Hello everyone, haven't been here for 6-8 months, so I have 2 questions. Help me please =)
1. What is the difference between 27.9.1 and 27.9.18 versions of PM from the 1st page of this new thread? I'm currently using 27.9.6 version for XP (2019-03-23).
2. Some modern sites have JavaScript errors. For example, code snippets with syntax highlighting and diff support on emberjs.com don't work in PM 27.9.6, but work perfectly in Firefox 52.9.0 ESR portable. The question is will this problem be fixed by updating to latest 27.9 build, or should I use 28.x instead? Is the JavaScript engine getting updates regularly, or only security and performance patches are applied by @roytam1?
The code that is breaking for me is
var e = this.element.querySelectorAll('pre:not(.no-line-numbers) > code') e && e.forEach(function (e) { e.parentNode.classList.add('line-numbers') })
I know what's happening here, it's just the laziness of programmers who didn't bother to call [].slice.call(e).forEach instead of just e.forEach, that is, I suppose, allowed by newer standard. I have seen it on another site before.
Anyway, is it already fixed in 27.9, which I love for its speed, or will it never be?
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On 4/22/2019 at 10:12 PM, Mathwiz said:
Yes, that is likely.
That part, I'm not so sure about. OTOH, it's certainly possible. We'll just have to hope for the best.
It'll depend on what MCP intends to do with PM 29, and what code libraries they use. For example, they could go down a path similar to Waterfox, which preserves UXP, yet cannot be back-ported to XP (uses Rust, IIRC....)
Why not just port Rust to XP? Everyone would benefit from that.
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On 4/7/2019 at 8:57 PM, DanR20 said:
but if it's the codec it's still far better than plugin-container, which I have always found to be far worse and unreliable
For me it's not true. Adobe Primetime CDM works absolutely brilliant with Twitch in Firefox 47 Portable (just for example). Also my Firefox 52 ESR Portable is configured to use it, and performs equally well there.
On 4/8/2019 at 5:20 AM, Mathwiz said:It wouldn't surprise me if Primetime requires considerably more CPU horsepower than the built-in ffvpx decoder. If so, ffvpx would be the preferred choice unless you're having issues with it.
But if compare to built in Firefox decoder (versions 42-52, again) the "native" realization (I beleive is uses system codecs) does not manage to playback smoothly even on my 4-core Intel Core i5 2500K with lots of RAM (at least when the video is something heavier than 720p 60 fps - say 900p 60 fps videos already freeze and loose sync with audio track on Twitch). Also CPU load with Adobe Primetime is at least 1.5x lower by my observations.
I know that Serpent/Moebius uses very different media codecs, just as additional information for anyone.
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So guys, has anyone used exensions like Tamper Monkey or Custom Style Script to replace existing JS code of the site? Have you had problems with CSP headers during this? Please give an advice which extension is better for PM 27 and how to install it (maybe some editing of the manifest is needed). I will try to make GitHub working again in PM 27 then
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On 4/3/2019 at 4:44 AM, siria said:
The only catch is that all those header addons must be disabled to avoid hijacking.
@siria , hat do you mean by hijacking? Some malicious JS extension code?
On 4/3/2019 at 4:28 PM, Mathwiz said:which wouldn't be bad if it didn't look so much like Win 10
It can be styled. There are many nice looking themes in the catalogue, and which is more important, you can go further and edit userStyle.css (I even made a video on YouTube about it about a year and a half ago).
Personally I use Basic Blue theme (one of the first ones) that is heavily modified using custom styles. The result looks like this:
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Sorry for the Google translation. 
Future of Chrome on Windows 7
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Posted · Edited by Alex654
Hello guys, I have a very similar problem an a newer PC (well, it is not new, but it is better than an old one) on Windows 10.
From some point in time about 1-2 weeks ago official non-portable Chrome started to show me white screen for 40-50 seconds on the first launch. Not only the first one - it repeats when I close Chrome and don't use it for a while. My OS and Chrome are located both on a SATA SSD on drive C:\.
I have scanned my PC for viruses and nothing was found. No CPU and GPU activity when idle, the OS build number is 1909.
I think it began when Chrome updated itself to one of the newest versions (was 115.x when I checked it yesterday evening, now is 116.0.5845.97 but the problem is still there).
Any ideas on how to fix it? I don't want to remove all of my browsing history as I did on the old PC
EDIT: I live in Russia, so maybe the reason can be in one of the IP which Chrome is trying to connect on startup is being blocked by the government. I don't use the VPN on a constant basis, since it costs money, and most of the free options are either being blocked or have very limited traffic available. Can I somehow find out what are the blocked addresses and redirect them to my own web server returning something like HTTP 404?