I had another old desktop in the closet that stopped recognizing that a monitor was there. I googled how to fix that, and it was rather simple.. Unplug it and hold the power button for a minute. That fixed that computer, and since the computer i was installing 98 on was a dell, and i hate dell's, i decided to install it on the other. I formatted the drive, and installed it. Ran great, i got the drivers for the card (Intel 28245G instead of 65, like in the other desktop) and installed them. Everything is fine there, works as should, so i went to look for the Ethernet card drivers, finally found them and got that working. Windows update still doesnt work, and is stuck in its loading loop. I got the newest version of opera, and managed to make it run with KernelEx. I then downloaded java 5, because that is the last supported for this OS, and tried to do basic java games, that i googled and found online. None of them accept Java 5, as it is too old. Is there any way that i can make a recent version of java work? That would be great.. EDIT: I did get some stuff going with this java, i just wasnt using IE so it wasnt recognizing that it had java. A recent version would still be nice though. Specs on the dell i was using: Pentium 4 2.4ghz 256Mb of ram (Took out the 1gb stick so it would run) 40gb Hdd Intel Extreme graphics (82865G) Specs on the computer im using now: Pentium 4 2.4ghz 256Mb of ram 40Gb hdd Intel graphics (82845G) Thanks for the help.