larryb123456

Hello, CoffeeFiend: I'm not colorblind, so I can see the message "I Secretly Loathe the colorblind!" I guess colorblind people only see "I Heart (i.e., "Love") the colorblind!" This is a very intelligent piece of "Conceptual Art", IMO, even though it is at the expense of the colorblind. I sure hope bphlpt finds it funny, and is not offended by it. (I don't think he will be offended at all, for he will know "where you're coming from".) Seriously, those of use with all our faculties can't begin to appreciate the difficulties faced by "less fortunate" people. I'm sure colorblindness has caused bphlpt problems that we could never even begin to imagine.

Thanks, bphlpt: Yes, I have the *latest Flash version* and I followed the instructions to a "T", and I agree with you that: "I must not get the whole point of the app, because it doesn't really make an impression on me." So, you put something in the "A: box", say "A", and then something in the "B: box", say "B", and press "Start", and THE SIMPLY AWE-INSPIRING AND AMAZING APP says, P1: If "A" Then "B" and P2: "A" Therefore "B". WELL, WHOOPTEE-DIDDLEY-DOO !!! This app is another piece of JUNK, just like THAT PIECE OF JUNK GOOGLE TRANSLATE (LOL!), which made me look like an i.d.i.o.t when I tried to write jaclaz in Italian.

@jaclaz I occasionally -- (really, it is more like 99+% of the time) -- have the mental capacity of Forrest Gump. Such was the case when I tried to use the Modus Ponens "flash app". I don't have a clue how to operate it. Would you be so kind as to enlighten me ? I crave enlightenment, because I most definitely want to Modus my Ponens and Ponens my Modus, as well. If this works out feeling good to me, I'll try to Modus my Modus and Ponens my Ponens, as well. But, of course, I'll do all this "behind closed doors", because I surely don't want to get arrested for "public indecency". Your statement, "IF Red is red THEN Green is green", really doesn't apply for approximately 10% of the population, as bphlpt has discussed very recently in his Post # 249. bphlpt's version of this statement would read something like this (I guess so, but I shouldn't speak for him. I should allow him to make his own Modus Ponens): IF Red is red THEN Green is green. Added in EDIT: BTW, I've always thought that green women are very sexy. Almost as sexy as the purple women. For, as the well-known expression reads, "Spice is the Variety of Life" !!!

@ bphlpt Following up on your last Post: So that I could know for *sure* for *myself*, I changed my screen resolution to 1280x720 and looked at all my "pulsating" animations. Everything was teeny-tiny on my monitor, of course, but even the subtle "purple-pulsed" letters appeared *crystal clear* to me. Thank goodness, since I'm "somewhat an artist", I have eyes (vision) like a *hawk* when viewing things close up, like my monitor screen. So, I guess one's ability to see teeny-tiny, subtle, pulsations would also depend on one's vision (as in 20/20, etc.).

@jaclaz I have only one thing to say about "illogical", and that is, as even a young child would know: "A implies B, B is true, therefore A is true" This is confusing, sometimes, because it looks so much like good logic: "A implies B, A is true, therefore B is true," known as Modus Ponens or affirmation of the antecedent, is one of the basic valid syllogisms. But affirmation of the consequent is definitely a fallacy. So, I'll end this Post with this admonition: Do not Modus my Ponens, jaclaz !!!

Yes, bphlpt, I like the purple outline better also. I forgot to say in my Post that I was making an image that would be easier for *you* to see. I knew this, because all the images we have worked on together have contained purple/gray, etc. type colors, and you had no complaints then. Larry, out of curiosity, what is the screen resolution and screen size you use on your system? The screen resolution I prefer using is *very low*, at 848x480. I like the resolution low so that my images (i.e., pixels) are rather large. Larger pixels at 1600% magnification (the maximum in PS 5.0) makes coloring -- (when using the Pencil) -- much, much easier for me. I have a small, wide-screen monitor, whose physical screen size -- (I just measured it with a ruler) -- is approximately 16"x9". So, in other words, all this corresponds to an actual screen resolution of about 53 pixels/inch. I make all my PS images at a resolution "setting" of 72 pixels/inch in the program. The next higher screen resolution that produces square pixels for me (without having to fiddle with adjustments, etc.) is 1280x720, and images (i.e., pixels) at this resolution are much too small for my liking.

Thanks, bphlpt, for the very-detailed and well-thought-out Post. I had prepared a Post -- (that I think you might find interesting) -- before I saw your Post, and I'll present it here after I make some short responses to yours. you could also try changing BOTH the letter AND outline to red. That would give a 3 pixel width amount of color, so would be a larger amount of the color This wouldn't work in userbars having the small 5-pixel-tall bitmap letters with their 1-pixel outline. Consider the letter "E" for example. If we colored the letter AND the outline red, we would wind up with a solid-red rectangle. We'd have similar unreadable results for all the other letters too. However, your concept is indeed applicable when using taller letters. For example, when I have some text that looks a little too "scrawny", I commonly beef it up by giving it a 1, 2, 3, or even a 4 pixel outline (i.e., "stroke"). This is the "poor man's" way to "own" a lot of bold fonts. (lol) I think you and I both appreciate subtlety. For sure, on my end, bphlpt ! But it has to be *effective* subtlety. Subtlety that is so subtle as to have no effect is a waste of time, IMO. My Post here does concern what I feel is an example of effective subtlety in the Primus userbar. But I knew you would want your work to be appreciated by as wide an audience as possible - otherwise, why post it anywhere at all? I would tend to agree with your statement if it read, "I would want my work to be appreciated by a wide audience". Eliminate the "as possible", because that could lead to my modifying (i.e., watering down) my *true* artistic intents, and that wouldn't be fair to my artistic "spirit". Plus, you can't satisfy *everybody*. As far as those artists who make art of absolutely no interest to *anyone* but *themselves*: an art teacher of mine called them "artistic masturbators". Well, I'll now present the Post I had prepared. Regarding bphlpt's Post concerning his not being able to see well the red pulsations in my Primus userbar: I wanted to investigate a little further, *visually*, so I made two additional versions of the userbar. Each version was really easy to make by using the following steps: I copied all my JPEG frames for the version with the red pulsations into a new folder, opened each JPEG, looked for the red outline, colored in the outline with the new-version-outline color, and saved and closed each JPEG. All this took about half an hour per version, including the animation. In the first version, I "threw subtlety out the window" to achieve *maximum visibility* for the pulsations, just to see how that would look: http://postimage.org/image/ygve5t8ld/ The outline color is not black, but it is very dark, and it was sampled from a color in the reddish-brown hair of the image. As one can see, the dark pulsations are "out of place" with the softness of the rest of the image, and these pulsations compete too strongly for attention with the scrolling of the face images. (IMHO, of course.) In the second version, I sampled a purple color from the image's tongue and adjusted its luminosity to get a good balance between subtlety and letter visibility. This purple color is quite a bit darker than the light-brown outlines (so that contrast with the white letters would be strong), but the purple color essentially disappears into the purple-toned background, thereby leaving more or less just the white of the letters: http://postimage.org/image/u771xlloh/ Even though this image is very "soft", I think it is effective, because the pulsations can be seen clearly because of the way the purple outlines "drop out" (essentially) leaving just the white letters to contrast with the surrounding light-brown outlines, which are always very visible. Sincerely, Larry Added in a much later edit: In the above discussion, where I said, "This purple color is quite a bit darker than the light-brown outlines", I misspoke. I meant to say, "This purple color is somewhat darker than the light-brown outlines".

Hello, jaclaz: Better late than never. You are so correct !!! I cried myself to sleep many nights thinking that you were neglecting me on purpose. (LOL!) I can try to at least write posts on a board in a decent English. *Much better* than "decent". the hard part is to try and switch the Vulcan logic part off Funny! the "switch" simply becomes automatic I would guess that "automatic" is not "universal", but that it depends on the intelligence (among other things, etc.) of the individual. I have been working for some time in English speaking countries I'm sure that has been of great benefit in *maintaining* your English fluency at its high level. Thanks again for responding, jaclaz.

Many, Many Thanks, bphlpt, for your *excellent commentary*. Figured you would want to know. Most definitely !!! I have kind of gotten into the habit of "red-pulsing" my letters just on the outline, since I can see the red O.K. I use red since it seems to fit in with all-color-schemed backgrounds, and it is kind of the "universal-attention-getting" color (i.e., witness the red-flashing lights on police cars, ambulances, etc.). Also, blue, green, etc. pulses might look "ugly" on a given background. What color(s) can *you* absolutely see, if I used them for the pulses? When I have black-outlined white letters, and red-pulse the outlines, the sudden transition between the black-to-red *guarantees*, for me at least, great pulse visibility. A lot of the userbars I have shown in this thread have such black-outlined white letters with red pulses replacing the black outlines. (For example, the Tripredacus animation in Post # 240, http://postimage.org/image/4y2xicmub/) Can you see these red pulsations any better, bphlpt? A black (or dark gray) outlined letter was not appropriate for Primus -- (I tried it and it didn't look right) -- since the "appropriate" color scheme, IMO, was brown and purple to coordinate with the colors in the face. For the Primus userbar, "red-pulsing" the letters themselves -- (rather than the outlines) -- might(?) have been a much better option, since the light-brown outline would not have provided such a low contrast with the red letter as to make reading the (light-brown-outline)/(red-letter) combination difficult. To explain: for example, red pixel letters with a black outline are hard to read, since there isn't much contrast between the 2 colors at the *small* 7-pixel (including outline) size. Why I used "might(?)" in the last paragraph, and this is the "fundamental question": You've established that you can't see well the 1-pixel-wide red *outlines*. You suggested making the letters themselves red. BUT, the letters themselves are only 1-pixel wide too. So, are you going to be able to see the red letters any better than the red outlines? Thanks Again, bphlpt ! Awaiting your comments.

A "cartoon-infused" video I like by .If you can get by the disgusting name of the group, you'll find that their music isn't all that bad. This song and the video remind me a lot of something that Primus might have done. (And everyone knows that PRIMUS SUCKS!)

To me, Art is interesting, because one might think that the perfect image has been produced, but on re-examining the image the next day, one might conclude that another version is superior. Such is the case with the Primus animation I presented yesterday, http://postimage.org/image/bqq8pfgf9/ This image has a display time of 0.14 sec per frame. I said I used this "slow" display time so that the red pulsations on the letters would be more noticeable. But now I feel that a smaller display time of 0.07 sec per frame makes the red pulsations *even more noticeable*, because they are moving more quickly and seem more "energetic". Also, the vertical scrolling of the faces is not in "boring-super-slow-motion", as before. 0.07 sec display time per frame, http://postimage.org/image/klk3mie53/ Since each red letter stays in place for 3 frames, the display time for each red pulsation is 3x(0.07sec)=0.21 sec. IMHO, with all things considered, this animation is much better.

In my MSFN Post # 713 (here), I established 2 things: # 1: the greatest music video *in the history of the universe* is ;# 2: PRIMUS SUCKS! As for # 1, of course, it is IMHO (not "In My Humble Opinion", but "In My Highly-regarded Opinion", lol). As for # 2, for those of you not familiar with the band Primus, the expression "Primus Sucks!" is used by the group's fans as a compliment of the *highest order*, in the same way that the expression, "You're Bad!" can be a compliment and actually mean the opposite. Well, this is a Graphics Thread -- (more or less, lol) -- and the above "preamble" leads naturally into the animated GIF userbar that I made today for Primus: http://postimage.org/image/bqq8pfgf9/ This is a frame-by-frame animation: 88 frames (76 unique frames), with a display time of 0.14 sec per frame, 255 colors, 197 KB. The vertical-scrolling rate was 1 pixel per frame. I had to slow the animation down so that the red "pulsations" on the letters would be more noticeable. Each red letter stays in place for 3 frames, so each letter is actually visible for 3x(0.14sec)=0.42sec. The construction of this animation was similar to that described in my Post # 240 for Tripredacus's userbar (which was based on his avatar), but it was simpler, because no linear-gradient bottom layers were used. I got the face image from Primus's "Antipop" album cover (by removing the background around the face) and I used brown and purple tones in the userbar to be compatible with the colors in the face. I made the "Primus" first in white, and then made two copies (one in light brown, the other in dark gray) via Photoshop "Clipping Paths", and arranged the three as shown, by "staggering", to give something of a 3-dimensional look. I hope you enjoyed looking at the Primus animation and watching and listening to "Shake Hands With Beef". Sincerely, Larry

In my Post # 214, I presented some static userbars in the "Countries" category. Among the images shown was http://postimage.org/image/ghzuzkb4n/ for Albania: As time went on, I became dissatisfied with this image. Among other things, I shouldn't have used white scanlines, because the Albanian flag colors are strictly red and black. Also, I made the opacity of the ellipse layer too great. Also, the double-headed eagle was rather small. So, to ease my "creative-genius, artistic mind" -- (lol) -- I made the the frame-by-frame animated GIF userbar shown here: http://postimage.org/image/8b0sd18dt/ I feel that this userbar does better justice to the beautiful Albanian flag. "Paqe" in Albanian translates to "Peace" in English. The animation has 218 frames (156 unique frames), a display time of 0.06 second per frame, 255 colors, and a file size of 163 KB. The vertical scrolling took place in increments of 1 pixel per frame. I used the top-quality animator settings of "Optimized Octree" and "Error Diffusion", which were discussed in my last Post. Basically, the animation is rather simple, involving just two features: the vertical scrolling (which is simple to understand); and the appearing-and-disappearing of the 3 variables, the double-headed eagle and the words "Peace" and "Paqe". I will very briefly describe the technique I used to achieve this appearing-and-disappearing. I basically just used opacity changes for the different frames. Let "X" represent one of the 3 variables mentioned above. Let "red" represent a solid-red background, with no image or lettering on it. Let % represent the opacity of "X" on the Photoshop layer before "X" was linked and merged with the red background (to produce a 100% opacity layer, of course). Let # represent the frame number, in the numerical order shown. By a little trial and error, I found that the following frame sequence worked well for the appearance and disappearance of *each* X: # 1, # 2, # 3 -- red # 4 -- 10% X # 5 -- 20% X # 6 -- 30% X # 7 -- 40% X # 8 -- 50% X # 9 -- 60% X # 10 -- 70% X # 11 through # 19 -- 100% X Frames # 20 through # 29 were just a "symmetrical-reverse" of # 1 through # 10: # 20 -- 70% X # 21 -- 60% X # 22 -- 50% X # 23 -- 40% X # 24 -- 30% X # 25 -- 20% X # 26 -- 10% X # 27, # 28, # 29 -- red And, that's all there was to it !

In my Post # 240, I presented an animated GIF userbar I made for Tripredacus. It was based on his avatar image and his "label" underneath that image. http://postimage.org/image/4y2xicmub/ This GIF has a file size of 327 KB. Tripredacus said, in Post # 241, that I could present this image, as an example of my work, on another forum I'm on. But, on that forum, the maximum file size for uploading an image is only 200 KB, so I had to reduce the file size of the above GIF. In my animator, Jasc Animation Shop 3.11, one may customize the color settings in order to balance image quality vs. file size. The best option to reduce colors is “Error Diffusion” which reduces colors by spreading out the inaccuracy in representing a pixel’s color to the surrounding pixels. When it replaces a color, the inaccuracy, or “error,” is carried to the next pixel, where the error is added to the color before selecting the nearest color. This process is repeated for every pixel in the image. Among the methods to create a color palette in the animator are: “Standard Palette” which uses a generic palette that contains a balanced number of colors.“Optimized Octree” which uses an 8-bits per channel palette, thereby giving more accuracy than Standard Palette, but also giving a greater file size than Standard Palette. The animated GIF shown above is *top-quality*, and it was made using "Error Diffusion" and "Optimized Octree". I was able to reduce the file size of this GIF to 178 KB in the animator by using "Error Diffusion" and "Standard Palette": http://postimage.org/image/a1ntaupbr/ This GIF is of a *lower quality* than the first-presented image above, but in my opinion, it is *much better*, because the background scanlines have been transformed into *ABSOLUTE MAGIC*! The background, to me, looks like "flowing water", an "illusion", a "TV channel with nothing but static", etc., etc., etc., ... "infinity". To discuss "philosophy" for a moment: What does it mean that a lower-quality image turns out looking *much better* than a top-quality image? To me, it means that God is rewarding me for all the hard work I put into making this animated GIF. (lol)

Hello, XPerties: You don't sound pathetic at all, to me. If you'd like, I can add myself to your "Friends" list, so then your friends would include: family dog glock larryb123456 P.S. (lol)

and I'm also including the Lyrics.This band -- (which is one of my absolute favorites) -- is an indie, New-York-City-based group, which usually makes relatively hard-driving "rock-type" songs, but "Skeletons" is indeed a deviation from that format. The video is worth watching if you like "soft, subtle, black and white Art". The song "seems to me" to be characterizing human existence as: ephemeral fleeting evanescent airy immaterial illusory incorporeal transitory nonmaterial ethereal * * * * * "infinity" (as Pee-Wee Herman would say, in "soft, subtle, black and white Art" lingo)

It just dawned on me that I haven't presented (on this thread) the first animated GIF image I made with Jasc Animation Shop 3.11: This is a very simple 8-frame animation, and I'm using it as an avatar on another forum I'm on.

Hello, Everyone: I'd like to publicly thank Kelsenellenelvian, who recommended (in Post # 151) Jasc Animation Shop 3.11 for making animated GIFs. I've used this software to make all the animations presented in this thread. The program is beautiful in its thorough documentation and it is straight-forwardly easy to use. So far, my approach has been to make all frames, individually, in Photoshop, and then use the Animator to animate the frames and to optimize the animation. In using Jasc Animation Shop 3.11, I have not yet explored using the other features, such as effects and transitions, but I will do so in the future. Thanks again, Kelsenellenelvian !

Many Thanks, Tripredacus, for your very complete and detailed response to all my questions. I was hoping that you would go into such detail, for I had wondered about my questions for a long time. The gestalt, unified-whole, image of Tripredacus was indeed something to see. That image would fit right in with one's worst nightmare! Many Thanks for allowing me to post my animation on another forum. On that forum, the maximum file size allowed for uploading an image is 200 KB. The file size of the image I presented here was 397 KB, and it had 255 colors. My animator can reduce the number of colors, so that the file size can be reduced. To get below 200 KB, I could use only 31 colors -- (the file size then was 197 KB) -- and the image was terrible, primarily because the bright red pulsations became a dingy-dirty-brown color. So, I'm going to have to try some other variations to get an acceptable 200 KB image. I'll Post the results, hoping that someone might find them interesting. Thanks again! Sincerely, Larry

I made an animated GIF userbar for Tripredacus based on his avatar image and his "label" underneath that image: Specs: 114 (unique) frames, 0.10 second display time per frame, 255 colors, 350x19px, 327 KB. For those of you who might be interested, I'll describe the details of the construction of this userbar. (Each of the 114 frames was made in Photoshop 5.0.) http://postimage.org/image/6e1kxr3y3/ shows the PS layers used, from top to bottom. I'll discuss each layer, starting from the bottom and working my way to the top. The linear-gradient bottom layers were made first. These layers comprise all 114 linear gradients -- (each 350x19px) -- used to give the background, back-and-forth, "sweeping spotlight" effect. Please note that this effect was not a "canned" effect from an animator, but that I made each frame myself, as I'll describe in this section. Each gradient was made using only two colors: a medium gray (R,G,B=128,128,128) and white. I chose this gray to give a "metallic feel", which would be compatible with the figure in Tripredacus's avatar. As shown in the link above (i.e., http://postimage.org/image/6e1kxr3y3/), the gradients just cover the area in-between the heads of the figures. I moved across this area in 2% increments from left to right and back again. To simplify the discussion, I'll give a "notation" to characterize the linear gradients. Let G(X) stand for the above-mentioned gray at X%. Let W(Y) stand for white at Y%. In the PS Linear Gradient Editor, when white was at P%, I made a gradient conforming to [G(P-10%),W(P),G(P+10%)]. The gradient shown in the above link (i.e., http://postimage.org/image/6e1kxr3y3/) was half-way between the two figures in the userbar, and it was made in the Linear Gradient Editor by [G(40),W(50),G(60)]. The gradient in the first frame was [W(0),G(6)], the second frame was [W(0),G(8)], the third frame was [W(0),G(10)], the fourth frame was [G(0),W(2),G(12)], etc., moving in 2% increments until the right side of the gradient was reached, and then reversing the direction, moving in 2% increments until the starting point, frame 1, was reached again. The gradient traversing took 114 frames, and then, of course, it "looped" indefinitely. I wanted the background "spotlight effect" to move smoothly and not be "step-by-step clunky", and a display time of 0.10 second per frame worked out well for that. The "template layer" above the gradient layer in the above link (i.e., http://postimage.org/image/6e1kxr3y3/) was made by linking and merging: 1) the 350x19px black -- (black 1px, inside) -- border with the two black end rectangles attached (these rectangles provided a background for the avatar figures to move on); 2) all the text; 3) the ellipse, white with opacity=40%; 4) the 2px-spacing black scanlines, with opacity=20%; 5) the background without the linear gradients. I next constructed all 114 frames upon which the avatar images would "ride" by linking and merging the template layer with each gradient layer below it, in succession. Tripredacus's avatar images, shown in the above link (i.e., http://postimage.org/image/6e1kxr3y3/), were made by downloading his 100x100px avatar from MSFN, reducing it proportionately to 75x75px, sharpening it in PS, and adding the two parallel right-angle "extensions" (so that the figures would not look "cut off" as they scrolled up and down on the black background, as you can see as you watch the animation). I chose the 75px-tall size, since I've found, based on past experience, that this is an ideal size for vertically-scrolling images in a 19px tall userbar. The image on the right is from Tripredacus's avatar, and the image on the left was made by simply rotating it horizontally in PS. http://postimage.org/image/fgkgdgrk3/ shows the left-side figure in three positions. The image on the left is frame 1, the image moves 57px up to stop at the middle position before coming 57px down to return to the starting point, shown on the right side. http://postimage.org/image/qduiacc5z/ shows the right-side figure in three positions. The image on the left is frame 1, the image moves 57px down to stop at the middle position before coming 57px up to return to the starting point, shown on the right side. The images moved one pixel per frame in the vertical scrolling. I knew, based on past experience, that the combination of 1px-per-frame movement and a display time of 0.10 second would give very smooth motion. As the figures move *over* the template, they cover up the template's black 1px border. The black-border layer at the top of the image (discussed above at http://postimage.org/image/6e1kxr3y3/) restores everything as it should be, when the top three layers are linked and merged. Making the red "pulsations" on the text is the final step in the construction of the animation. I used red because the color works nicely here, and it is in the color scheme of Tripredacus's MSFN signature. I knew, based on past experience, that a display time of 0.10 second per frame would be too quick for comfortable viewing of letter-to-adjacent-letter pulsations. To get around this limitation, I simply colored in the red outline for a letter, say "T" in Tripredacus, on two successive frames, say frameX and frame(X+1), and I did this for all red letters. Therefore, even though the *actual* display time per frame is 0.10 second, the *effective* display time for each red letter is 0.20 second, which gives comfortable viewing. The complete text has 27 characters, and since we are "doubling up" the text frames with the red outlines, the text is actually displayed for 54 frames. I wanted it displayed for 57 frames to match the vertical scrolling of the figures and the back-and-forth of the background-gradient "spotlight", so I simply did not color in the red outline for 3 frames in-between "Tripredacus" and "K-Mart-ian Legend". Mission accomplished! If you look closely at the animation, these 3 non-colored frames, provide a little "pause" in the red pulsations between "Tripredacus" and "K-Mart-ian Legend". I started the red pulsation on the "T" in "Tripredacus" when the left-side figure's mouth was displayed in the 19px tall graphic. The pulsations continue from left to right, and the red pulsation on the "d" in "Legend" is shown when the right-side figure's mouth is displayed. I feel that the last 2 sentences combine to produce a nice effect. I hope that you all enjoyed seeing this animated GIF, and I also hope that some of you benefited from the detailed steps in the GIF's construction. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @Tripredacus Can you please enlighten me on what your member name, Tripredacus, means *to you*? What does "K-Mart-ian Legend" mean *to you*? Is Tripredacus a Transformer? Is the figure in your avatar actually "Tripredacus"? Is the figure in your avatar a Transformer? I'd like to present this animated GIF as an example of my work on another graphics forum I'm on, if it's O.K. with you, of course. Many Thanks! Sincerely, Larry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A *great song* from a few decades back, .It's best to follow the lyrics as you listen to the song: Well you're dirty and sweet Clad in black don't look back and I love you You're dirty and sweet, oh yeah Well you're slim and you're weak You've got the teeth of the hydra upon you You're dirty sweet and you're my girl Get it on, *bang a gong*, get it on Get it on, *bang a gong*, get it on Well you're built like a car You've got a hub cap diamond star halo You're built like a car, oh yeah Well you're an untamed youth That's the truth with your cloak full of eagles You're dirty sweet and you're my girl Get it on, *bang a gong*, get it on Get it on, *bang a gong*, get it on - oh Well you're windy and wild You've got the blues in your shoes and your stockings You're windy and wild, oh yeah Well you're built like a car You've got a hub cap diamond star halo You're dirty sweet and you're my girl Get it on, *bang a gong*, get it on Get it on, *bang a gong*, get it on - ooh Well you're dirty and sweet Clad in black, don't look back and I love you You're dirty and sweet, oh yeah Well you dance when you walk So let's dance, take a chance, understand me You're dirty sweet and you're my girl Get it on, *bang a gong*, get it on Get it on, *bang a gong*, get it on - ow Get it on, *bang a gong*, get it on - ow - get it on - mh Get it on, *bang a gong*, get it on - a-a-a-a Get it on, *bang a gong*, get it on - a-a-a-a .... Take me, for a meanwhile I'm still thinking .... By The Way, here is a picture of the group's lead singer.

@CoffeeFiend No offense taken or anything. I'm glad. Your post was educational for me. I had never heard of Chiak before, or the concept of actually speaking in two (or more) languages at one time. A lot of the time, when I speak in just the only one language I know, English, it turns out to be gobbledegook. When this happens in the future, and people accuse me of speaking gobbledegook, I'll just say, "No, I was speaking Chiak!" (lol)

@jaclaz This Post has absolutely no relevance on a Art thread, but I guess it would qualify in the sense of "mental" Art. I'm putting the Post here, thinking that you might see it. How did you get so *absolutely fluent* in writing the English language, even down to the infinitesimal nuances? If one didn't know better, they would think you were from a primarily-English-speaking country. When you write (or speak) English, how do you "turn off" the Italian part of your brain? English is the only language I know. If I knew another language, when writing something it would be about a half-and-half combination of English and the other language (i.e., absolute gobbledegook). Did you learn English as a young child?

Unfortunately, my design critique skills aren't my strong point. I'm more of a photographer than a designer (ironically I get paid more for the former than the latter -- totally my fault though). CoffeeFiend, Photography is *just as much* a Fine Art form as Painting or Graphic Design, and as such, the same basic criteria for a successful image in all three genres apply: composition, color balance, type of image, to mention just a few. I'm sure you give a lot of attention to cropping your Photography images (i.e., "composition") as well as the other aspects I mentioned. Face the fact, CoffeeFiend, your design critique skills are probably *very strong* (perish the thought -- lol) since you are a PHOTOGRAPHY ARTIST.

, a great song and video. Isn't "Breeders" a fantastic name, or what ?? !! This was the group's only major hit, but if you're only going to have one, make it a great one, and all your efforts will not have been in vain.