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That's pretty good. Somewhat OT, but it reminds me of a sign at the health-food store that says, "WARNING -- Unattended Children Will Be Sold!" --JorgeA

Left behind by the Windows 10 bandwagon So in addition to "legacy" Windows users, Microsoft has managed to alienate users of "modern" Windows versions too. What's not to like about the strategy? --JorgeA

Yup! --JorgeA

Sounds good to me, thanks. The guy admitted he got the numbers for the updates wrong, but then the thread was closed and readers never learned which updates he did (supposedly) have in mind. --JorgeA

I just came across claims of three more telemetry/spyware Windows Updates masquerading as security fixes. TBH I'm skeptical of these claims, but I want to run them by you all and get your views. Should they be added to the list of updates to avoid? --JorgeA

Windows Phone market share drops to 1.7% And so Microsoft's response to the universal (pun intended) failure of its mobile projects, is to twist and turn Windows itself into a mobile platform. Brilliant. BTW, in 2011 as Windows 8 was nearing the light of day, Gartner was predicting a 19.5% mobile OS share for Microsoft by 2015. The share has actually fallen since then (from 4.2%). Way to go, Steve Satya Ballmer Nadella. --JorgeA

Check out this statement I found from another forum. Speaking of build 10586, a security software developer says: Biggest kernel change? Two weeks? Nice! What do you think? I'm especially curious about the magnitude of the kernel change. --JorgeA

I don't know, I've skipped Vista altogether, but I doubt it. Anyhow, the best person to consult about that would be MagicAndre1981... If he doesn't chime in soon, it might be a good idea to PM him about it. Andre seems to have dropped out ever since the tussle over the value of UAC. I wonder if he'll reply if I send him a PM. I'll think about it. --JorgeA

Sounds like in theory - and hypothetically (of course) - the good AV guys are giving you a full load of bullsh*t . JFYI: https://www.globalsign.com/en/blog/microsoft-announces-updates-sha-1-code-signing-policy/ http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/32288.windows-enforcement-of-authenticode-code-signing-and-timestamping.aspx jaclaz Thanks jaclaz, that was helpful. If I read it correctly, the TechNet article would suggest that the AV vendor could continue to sign an SHA-1 (instead of SHA-2) certificate for Vista systems, but only if that's the "only" OS for which it's developing software: Then again, the article is not exactly a model of textual clarity, as several of the commenters at the bottom of the page indicated. Presumably, the AV company's current version is signed with an SHA-1 certificate and so should be fine for Vista, but they've announced a new version and will not only stop selling the current one, but will even stop sending virus definitions updates for it early next year. --JorgeA

If you mean the screens that give you vague messages in chatty condescending language (such as "we're getting some things ready"), the answer is yes. TBH, in my case the move from 10240 to 10586 took so long that I walked away from the computer, so I can't say what all got displayed on the screen during the process. IIRC, during the original Win10 installation there were several points where you needed to make a decision as to settings, and the process would halt until you made a selection. There wasn't anything like that when moving to 10586. --JorgeA

Mine came through the regular Windows Updates channel. One day last week, it simply showed up. If and when you get it, be prepared to go through all your privacy and default application settings, as it's likely to turn all the privacy invasions back on and the default programs to Universal "apps" that you may not like. Any Win10 apps that you may have uninstalled in 10240, will also come back and you'll have to uninstall them again. --JorgeA

Huh, that's interesting. Vista, though, does require these code signing certificates, is that right? Sounds like in theory they could continue to support XP (because it doesn't require these certificates), but not Vista? --JorgeA

All your DRMed Zune files are expired and dead. Thanks for the ride. I am so glad that I put my music in the cloud (not!). Enough of these outrages, and maybe the covenience lovers will finally come to realize that it's not very convenient to have your listening experience controlled (let alone erased) by some far-off provider. While we're on the subject: when the iPod first came out, my wife got one to play during long car trips. The iTunes software was the most rigid, convoluted piece of programming I've ever run across. "No, I don't want you to sync anything to anything, I want to make my own decisions and know what's going on!!" "How the h3// do I copy only Hour 2 of this talk show onto the thing??" We ended up getting a Sansa Fuze where I could simply copy files over as if it were a flash drive. No muss, no fuss. --JorgeA

Indeed, it could! Now, check out this part of the description of that advertising software: That sounds almost like a textbook definition of spyware. Another reason to keep your smart TV off the Internet and your smartphone turned off except for when you're expecting or making a call. --JorgeA

On the theme of Microsoft's force-marching Windows users into newer operating systems, I've learned some disturbing information. Last week I had an exchange with an AV company regarding their announcement that they were going to stop supporting XP and Vista next spring. Because this AV suite is (was) my leading candidate to replace Norton for my Vista work system, this was disappointing and I wrote them to say so. Given that the publicly stated reason for their decision was that XP was no longer supported by Microsoft, I pointed out that Vista is in fact still supported, so why lump them in together with XP? Here's (part of) the answer that I received: The bottom line appears to be that, although Vista doesn't officially reach end of extended support until April 2017, they are already making it difficult if not impossible to keep the third-party software on a Vista system up to date. I'm eager to hear the thoughts of folks who are familiar with these sorts of "inside baseball" details. --JorgeA

Yeah, I can see that doll being used for all sorts of mischief. Suppose that a little kid engages in some of that "role play" and fantasizing that they discuss in the article, and the role-playing has to do with getting abused by Mom. Or the kid simply just got yelled at, and is taking out its frustrations by talking to Barbie and saying slanderous things about Dad. It could be a gold mine for enterprising lawyers. The risks far outweigh the benefits IMHO. --JorgeA

Very appropriate to the situation! --JorgeA

Yeah, I have that too. Transparency somehow survived, but there's no blur and no window borders. Looks kinda cool actually -- until you overlay one window over another and then you can't tell what's what or where the window control buttons are. I'll wait and see what bigmuscle has in store in the way of an official Aero Glass version for 10586. I'm confident that he can handle it. --JorgeA

This is just shocking. If I remember correctly, an in place upgrade from 95-98, 2000-XP or XP-Vista still kept default programs, and that's between two entirely different versions of Windows not a service pack to an existing one. It IS shocking, not to say disgusting and insulting, and word is spreading around the tech press: Has Windows 10 November Update (Threshold 2) reset your privacy settings and default apps? --JorgeA

This was not a rhetorical question... do any of y'all remember a scene featuring a self-filling empty glass in one of the Matrix movies, and can perhaps tell me in which of them does it appear, or whether I've just dreamt it? OK, I went through the original Matrix movie tonight. There were several scenes where there was a glass on a table or in somebody's hand, but none where the glass filled itself or anything unusual happened relating to the glass. Hopefully it's not a case where the channel edited the scene out or anything like that! Maybe it's in one of the sequels. I'll keep looking... --JorgeA Following up: The two Matrix sequels (Reloaded and Revolutions) played on cable this week. I just finished fast-forwarding through them (but not so fast that I couldn't tell what was going on). Any time I saw a scene with any kind of glass or container for liquids in it, I slowed down to normal speed. Sorry to say, I didn't see anything like what you describe. Now, it's possible that the cable channel (AMC) edited the movies for time and the scene you have in mind got cut. but I'm thinking that it may be from a different film altogether. Hope this helps! --JorgeA

Huh, it sounds like there's a wide variety of results with Aero Glass following the 10586 installation. It worked for you, it didn't work for me, and @truexfan81 reports above that his computer was borked. Wonder what might account for the differences. --JorgeA Maybe, because there is no Aero Glass designed for build 10586? I really do not understand why the people still mess this forum with build 10586 when it has been million times said that this is for build 10240 only OK then, what is the recommended procedure with respect to your Aero Glass when Microsoft is pushing out a new Windows 10 build -- should we uninstall Aero Glass before allowing the new build to install itself? --JorgeA

Huh, it sounds like there's a wide variety of results with Aero Glass following the 10586 installation. It worked for you, it didn't work for me, and @truexfan81 reports above that his computer was borked. Wonder what might account for the differences. --JorgeA

How would you respond to some people's pre-programmed reaction to stopping updates, that You're Leaving Your PC Vulnerable and Exposed to Attack and If You Get Infected, You Deserve What'll Happen to You? --JorgeA

Yeah, I can see this need for re-theming over and over again getting really old, really fast. What a pain in the neck. It never occurred to me I might have to keep notes on what I did in the Aero Glass UI so that I could repeat the choices later on. Silly me, I thought my selections might persist and I'd be done with that. Now I know better. --JorgeA

It works fabulously! Did it "just work" for you when you installed 10586, or did you have to re-do any Aero Glass settings? In my case, I'm going to have to reconstruct the settings and choices I'd made. Shoulda taken notes when I did it the first time, as talk about "theme atlases" and so forth doesn't exactly roll off my tongue. --JorgeA