chrisoborski

I'm Installing hotfixes through "SVCPACK.INF" and im using the correct switches to install hotfixes. Every thing is good except Add/Remove programs list is showing Hotfixes even though i specified "/N" switch. I don't get it whats the point of using the switch if the $NtUninstall folder isn't used why should Hotfix appear when uninstalling isn't an option?? Its possible i'm mistaken?? I know i could manually remove reg entries for each hotfix through *.reg file. I would like to do this the right way if there is such a way. I'm stumped. I've looked around through the forums and google an couldn't find a further explanation. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/262841/ Didn't have any indepth info either. I'd appreciate any help Thanks again... .SVCPACK.INF

Well i didn't remove swenum.sys or any of the files that are slow to copy. Actually it pauses on swenum.sys for about 30 seconds and then continues on. It's just really weird that it pauses on certain files. I've watched it for most of the copying process and didn't see any files listed that i removed. I haven't had anything fail to copy though but that's why i thought it might of had to do with the compression level or some setting pertaining to that that i wasn't aware of. Thank you very much i'm going to try it with MSZIP. I knew someone would know... Thanks Again EDIT: This is great i found this for anyone interested http://www.msfn.org/board/makecab-compression-issue-t25374.html

Im manually removing components from my cd. I first have to unzip both cab files then remove the files from driver folder and Sp1 folder and also i386 folder. I removed entries from "txtsetup.sif" "dosnet.inf" then when finished i turn driver folder into driver.cab and SP1 folder into SP1.cab. While windows is copying files from the cd to harddrive copying is slow for some files and even pauses. Its slow for the files i haven't removed I mean. I've narrowed it down to files coming from the driver.cab file but these files haven't been removed. So im thinking that it has to do with the compression of the cab file or my settings when i recompressed said cabinet files. The files copying slow are "swenum.sys" "rio8drv.sys" "riodrv.sys" and more.. Here's the batch file of what goes on during recompressing both cab files. DRIVERS! Finishing Off.cmd Is there any way to tell what compression level or method Microsoft used when compressing both cabinet files? I haven't got to the point yet where i can check the Setuperr.log file yet but i'll post as soon as i do.. I don't think these are errors but something else anyways... Thanks

I don't know much about "TXTSETUP.SIF" but couldn't you add an entry to "TXTSETUP.SIF" and put your file or files in the i386 directory? It should copy those files just like normal system files. Im pretty sure xp uses "TXTSETUP.SIF" to copy files to hard drive while installing i don't know much about the entries in "TXTSETUP.SIF" but i'm sure there's info on this board or through google. Chris

Hey chrisoborski, just used quotes now and it worked? In the past, I also used no quotes in my "SVCPACK.INF", but there was a reference at Microsoft or somewhere with the quotes. Yes!! It worked I've been trying to get hotfixes/updates to install for at least two months maybe longer. I added quotes like your "svcpack.inf" and i also added two spaces at the end of the "svcpack.inf" file. Somewhere within the past few days i remember reading that a space at the end of the file was needed but i cant remember where i saw that so i added both quotes and two spaces and viola it installed. I'm Completely amazed!! Thanks that's just what i needed!! Chris

Worked!!!!

Hey Hollow not to hijack this thread but,, I 've been trying like mad to get my hotfixes installed on Windows XP Pro SP1 through "svcpack.inf" and i can't figure it out. I noticed your using quotes around all the hotfixes in you "svcpack.inf" file. I wasn't using quotes and i've haven't seen any reference to it anywhere. Are quotes supposed to be used for installing through "svcpack.inf". Or do you know if it matters? I've been working on this unattended disk for months now..... Thanks Chris EDITED: I'm going to give it a try right now anyways ... I'll Check back,..

I've made many unattended cds and i've always used C:\XPCD\$OEM$\$1\Install. XPCD would be the root of your install .. as in what you would see on the E:\ drive after the cd is burned. I've never heard of using $OEM$ folder under the I386 directory. I used nlite once but havent used it about 5 years as i do it all manually now. The file you posted that was generated by nlite is that your last session.ini or winnt.sif. It should be a winnt.sif file. Also i do remember an issue with nlite not copying files because of not waiting to reboot. I would specify WaitForReboot="Yes" NoWaitAfterTextMode=0 NoWaitAfterGUIMode=0 instead. Im also thinking that UnattendMode=DefaultHide might help if you changed it to FullUnattended as a second option. Is your Install folder under $OEM$ spelled with a capital first letter? You should still see the install folder on your os hard drive though regardless. Refer to this page as it explains Everything http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/18/ On that page $OEM$ Is parallel to I386 not under it. It confusing at first glance i understand. The two are side by side. Hope That Helps Chris

You can use Regshot_Unicode . It takes a snapshot of the registry before you install software. And it also takes a snapshot after the software is installed. You can then compare the results. It will tell you exactly what registry key was changed or added. It will also Save the changed key for you as a "*.reg" file. Very convenient. It also supports many languages.. Chris

XP Service Pack 1 Not nlited Using Virtual Pc 2007 Using Image Burn 2.47 from a batch file WINNT.SIF I've Been working on a new unattended cd for the last week or two but this cd i've decided to actually do some work and do it without Nlite. I wanted to learn how to customize my cd the manual way. I've made about 15 iso images and mounted them in virtual pc and little by little made small changes as i go. So far everything is seting up as i want as far as reg tweaks, bypassing mini setup, cleaning up the start menu.cmd, and i have the $OEM$ folders set up exactly as i want. Cmdlines.txt is running batch files as they should. But im completely stumped as far as "SVCPACK.INF" and my hotfixes not integrating at all. I asked a similiar question here before http://www.msfn.org/board/hotfixes-integrating-through-svcpackinf-t143346.html but no reply or maybe i didnt ask right. So i figured id just "try harder" and it will all work out and i'll do more searching. Maybe i wasnt thorough enough when i asked the first time. IDK I then tried another method using WINCDMAN --->http://berns.cae.wisc.edu/files/wincdman/wincdman.html and see if i can get the hotfixes to integrate maybe. WINCDMAN is a batch file that compiles all the svcpack DIR hotfixes in one shot. That didnt work. Ive got 107 hotfixes subtract 10 i "just threw in the mix at the end of "svcpack.inf". Ive followed this guide religously but its not working. http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/24/ Im hoping someone can take a look at my "svcpack.inf" file or just give me some input. I had high hopes for this undertaking... Using_MSFN_Unattende_WAY_svcpack.inf I've spent the last five days trying to get them to integrate properly using different switches and im completly lost at this point. Heres my "svcpack.inf" after i ran WINCDMAN Wincdman_SVCPACK.INF The file version from the "update.exe" inside one of the hot fixes is version 5.3.0016.6. So its an older hotfix that dosnt support the newer switches. I've dotted all my t's .. I've added svcpack optional directories to "dosnet.inf" Deleted the original "svcpack.inf" that was compressed before adding my updated version with the hotfixes in the I386 DIR. I also noticed that when i run media player 10 setup "silent installer" from the desktop it runs silently when double clicking on it but wont even install using no switches through "svcpack.inf". Please someone take a look at this giving up is not an option I hope i've been thourough enough and didnt leave anything out as i really need someone to have a look over whats going on with this. Take a look at this as im not sure i can make this work ... Ive got to be missing something somewhere but i dont think so. ... . Or is there a tool where it will tell me what switches these hotfixes use. Or any suggestions... Or another way of integrating without using nlite. Ive even looked at the microsoft website on how to integrate and same info as MSFN. Thanks in advance as id really appreciate any help even any suggestions ChrisOborski

Hey I found this by the way... I was curious how minisetup works http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321070 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/287506

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The Setup screen you see is run from "C:\WINDOWS\system32\oobe\msoobe.exe". I know this from having to "taskkill.exe" it through the cmd prompt. Basically when the gui mode of setup finishes it brings you to the "setup" where your supposed to fill out usernames for xp. I am working on an unattended cd and this page was not supposed to show per my settings in winnt.sif file. I presses SHIFT+F10 to get to the cmd prompt then i used "tasklist.exe" and all the usual programs were running except i noticed "msoobe.exe" was running. I then used "taskkill.exe /f /im msoobe.exe" and viola no setup screen.... Went straight to the default Administrator account. Im not sure exactly how to make it come back but i hope ive pointed you in the right direction. Though the answer might be in the registry i would assume but still not sure. This page might help http://www.msfn.org/board/windows-after-setup-t29908.html

Im using Xp Pro Sp1 and im using Microsoft Virtual Pc. I also am using Cdimage.exe from the command line using a batch file. After i made the iso image i mounted it with virtual pc then went to windows update website through IE and checked to see if i missed any hotfixes. To my surprise widows update website said i needed 78 critical updates. This is the same amount i started with before they were supposed to be integrated with. So it looks like nothing got installed. http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/24/ <------Ive been using this page for some guidance since this is my first time using this method. I've decided to take the harder road and intgrate hotfixes and remove components without nlite. Heres a copy of the directory SVCPACK through the cmd prompt c:\xpcd\i386\SVCPACK\dir /b >>dir.txt DIR.txt And heres a copy of my svcpack.inf svcpack.inf. Most of my hotfixes are the white icon hotfixes that use the "Hotfix.exe /Q /O /N /Z" switches. The last few hotfixes im not sure if they will integrate i figured that i put them in svcpack.inf to see what happens MDAC.exe /Q:A /R:N MDAC2.exe /Q:A /R:N msiCln.exe /Q:A /R:N UPHCln.msi /Q:A /R:N gditol.exe /Q:A /R:N HMTCDWz.exe /Q:A /R:N I'll first try and run them through the command prompt with /? to see the switches each could possibly use( which i didnt do before i added them initially).I'll take them out, make a new ISO and try again through virtual pc. I figured The remaining in the begining of the svcpack.inf should have installed? I hope i've given enough info... Oh at the begining of svcpack.inf I've added Windows Media Player 10 renamed to MP10.exe if that helps Thanks

Ok Thanks DigeratiPrime I just decided to go ahead and try my idea anyways but thanks... Ill look into that... Though.. I succesfully made a restored XP Cd. I actually used a VLK of Xp Pro with no service pack. I first copied the contents to my hard drive then integrated Xp Service Pack One. Then i copied the files oembios.bi_ oembios.da_ oembios.si_ pidgen.dll dpcdll.dl_ setupp.ini Winnt.sif Unattended.txt. I then made an iso image with CdImage.exe then mounted it with virtual pc. The new cd works great.. No problems at all.. Now i just have to sort out the hotfixes not integrating properly but ill post in another post about that.. Chrisoborski

I have an Ati video card and when i've just installed the driver what i did was use universal extractor the extract the setup.exe. Then go to the extracted setup.exe folder until i found the "driver" folder.From there i just ran the setup.exe for the driver from that folder. But if your trying to run an install without the driver .exe's like ati2evxx.exe I would look at how microsoft makes there inf file. I have an Ati Radeon 7200 and i like the default drivers that microsoft provides for windows xp. Microsoft drivers for my Radeon don't have any of the exe's and have less dll's for the card. The drivers that are loaded by microsoft are some of the same filenames but lower versions and the bare bones minimum no exe's. Instead of 8 dll's Ms installs about 3 or 4. I would look in the inf file for the answer as to how they get by with no exe's. Im actually not home at the moment cause if i was i would be able to compare the inf files by Ati and microsoft for you. I'm sure there's a way to rewrite the inf file by Ati. Also i just downloaded catalyst control center and extracted the driver folder from the control center and Ati uses install shield setup if that helps. Heres what i found also http://www.appdeploy.com/tips/detail.asp?id=18 Heres Universal Extractor http://legroom.net/software/uniextract Ati uses a 7zip package for the main exe and i think you might be able to rename the Setup.exe to setup.7z and open that with winrar if possible. Heres where i got catalyst Control Center https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/6-11-pre-r300_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_38185.exe Or http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx There setup.exe is named 6-11-pre-r300_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_38185.exe extract it and compare the inf's with the inf's provided by microsoft. If that helps I hoped i helped somewhat Ill compare the inf's myself when im home in about a day and get back to you... Chris O

I used the msfn unattended guide and nlite about 4 years ago and didn't realize i should keep the original cd in case i wanted to modify it again. I'm doing another unattended cd again and i need it back. The problem is i don't have it anymore and i'm hoping that i can come up with a way to get it back in a sense. Here's what id like to do since i don't have the original Cd anymore. My nlited cd is XpSp1 Pro with a volume license key. I'd like to borrow someone else's Vlk XpSp1 Pro Cd copy it to my hard drive and replace a couple of the key files pertaining to my Vlk. I want replace oembios.bi_ oembios.da_ oembios.si_ pidgen.dll dpcdll.dl_ setupp.ini Winnt.sif Unattended.txt with the files i have on my nlited Cd.Basically replacing the files pertaining to my VLK. This will keep it activated to me as a VLK. I also want to scan both the nlited copy and the one i'm going to borrow to see if there are any differences with the files for both Cd's. I thought this might be an option since i cant get my original back. Basically it will rebuild what i used to have. This will give me the option to use nlite again if i choose but this time i think my unattended cd will probably be done using the /INTEGRATE method. Can anybody tell me if this is a good idea or it would even work? Thanks Chris O Can Anybody tell of a good program that can compare two directories and output the differences. Ive got both Cd's on my harddrive and im using a program called CD Check to compare both windows cd's but the program isnt any good. Id Appreciate any help that anyone can offer cause i dont know if this is going to be do-able. I've Searched hi and low but i havent found any programs that will do what im looking for. It could be the terms im searching for though. Chris O

Ok thanks everyone Thanks Sp0iLedBrAt Im reading those links you posted right now. I'll also try and search some too. Although i tried searching for "nlited installations" twice and couldnt find anything but maybe if i try searching based on my errors recieved ill find some results. Thanks

I manually downloaded 90 updates for Windows Xp Pro Service Pack 1 in about an hour and twenty minutes. I think thats pretty quick and im sure i got all of them.I used windows update to scan my bone stock unhotfixed XpSp1 install and it came back with 90 updates. If anyones interested i can upload the package so someone in the future wont have to go through the trouble of copying .. pasting.. searching. Im sticking with service pack one.. If anyones doing the same ill upload it or send or whatever to save on the hassle Just thought id throw that out there... Later

How Many Times Can You Use Nlite On An Xp Installation? I searched for this in the forums but couldn't find anything.. I don't have the original xp Cd since i use the version i applied nlite to and that was four or five years ago. If i want to use nlite again does it matter if it was applied twice to the same install. I'm asking cause i tried it but i had some errors when Xp booted for the first time. A message box popped up about 10 times complaining about "nhelper.exe" couldn't be found. I attributed that to removing a few components but am not sure. I can post my last session tomorrow when i get back to my house. Im currently away from my home and don't have it available. I just wanted to see what the general opinion was or what has happened to others. Thanks

Well looks like i'll have to manually download the 38 hotfixes. I finally got tested out my installation and i ran windows update. Windows update said i had 38 hotfixes that needed to be installed. I had a total of 90 something updates originally Subtract 38 missing . I got most of them so thats not such a bad thing. 38 to manually download i cant really complain but if anyone does have a Windows Update Downloader SP1 List That would be great... Chris

Im Working on a new unattended cd and im using Windows Update Downloader 2.25.895 I have Windows XP Service Pack 1 Disk that im integrating all hotfixes for up to this service pack. I do alot of audio editing on my computer and with service pack 2 installed it slows it down a good amount. I hate service pack 2 and am strongly against upgrading. I used WUD 2.25.895 and used the stock list that came with it which is "windows-xp-x86-enu.ulz" Date --->2008-04-08 I know when i check windows update it says i have around 84 critical updates WUD says i have 94. No Big Deal... When using nlite version 1.4.91 I integrated my hotfixes and had at least 35 wrong version errors. I think im using the wrong list for Windows Update Downloader. I dont know of any easier way to download updates unless anybody can recommend another solution. Does anybody out there have a WUD list thats specifically for updating XP Service Pack 1? Im sure someone has an old list that goes for just Service Pack 1??? because the ones on the WUD site are for Service Pack 2 if im correct and the one i have isnt working.... Thanks so Much Chris O P.S. ---> I also Included alist of Hotfixes That Failed - Thanks HOTFIX That Failed.txt

Hey Thanks Yzöwl I got it Just add my commands to [GuiRunOnce] section of Winnt.sif So from what i can tell the $OEM$\$1\ gets copied to the c:\ <----windows xp installation This would get renamed to oem\install if im right or no ? Thanks Again - Im bookmarking that page! - Thanks Chris EDIT:>>>> Nevermind I found this --> http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/18/ That explains it all.. Thanks Again .

Im Working on a new unattended cd and its been about 6 years since the last one and this is like starting all over again. I never used [GuiRunOnce] last time. I used cmdline.txt for my registry tweaks and those didnt get imported. I think by using [GuiRunOnce] my registry tweaks will get imported since some of those contain HKEY_CURRENT_USERS registry keys. I read that [GuiRunOnce] will run those when the first user is logged on. I've got two files right now that i want to run The first is WALLPAPER.EXE which is a sfx archive containing really nice wallpaper that will self extract into C:\WINDOWS\Web\Wallpaper directory. So anytime you want to change the wallpaper there already there in the menu of wallpapers to choose from. So My question is when i create a batch file to run WALLPAPER.EXE and REGTWEAKS.REG what location does [GuiRunOnce] call my batch file from? What location does it need to be on the cd? So i guess all in all Where does my batch file need to be on the cd? ... Where does my two files WALLPAPER.EXE and REGTWEAKS.REG need to be on my cd? Will i need to put that location in the batch file that is called from [GUIRUNONCE]? I wasnt sure if these three files get copied from $OEM$ folder or if i should even place anything in that folder so i figured id ask.. Thanks Again AS MSFN has been a HUGE resource in the past .. Except i didnt ask any questions last time. Thanks Again Chris ..