I certainly don't want to step on anyone's toes here. There has been amazing work done by many on this board. I see an opportunity and simply wanted to bounce it around the think tank for a bit. 98SE2ME/98MP10, SP3, and Autopatcher are all packages of full OS scope with the same goal in mind. All have certain advantages over the others. It seems that much more could be accomplished if these four large projects could be rolled into one with the three of you working on the same goal and the end product would probably be better, individual workload would probably decrease, and the rest of us leeches (grin) would probably benefit more. Since all of this is done out of "care factor" anyway, it's not like there's any competition and all of you should receive due credit. I am willing (but don't expect) to help with whatever I can if there is hope for this idea. I do not have the knowledge of the specific inter workings of the 98 OS that you three have, but I am working on by CS degree and have a large amount of experience taking apart and reassembling Linux. The limiting factor right now is that I am deployed to Iraq, but I'm willing to do what I can if it will help the cause. I realize that what I'm tossing out there would mean that each would have to scrap some part of their own way of doing things, but it would truly be great for everyone else IMO. MS had many programmers pounding out 98, we should expect that re-engineering it would be no easier. A snack for the brain.