Then you need to go under advanced. "Change" permission implies just that - click that "Advanced" button for more granular control. You're probably looking to allow the list, read, and write permissions but not allow delete. Also note though, that if you remove the delete permission from a share a user may open a document from in Microsoft Office, the user will not be able to save the changes to the document (Office creates a temporary file the user writes to, usually with the name "~<whatever the file name is>", and when it goes to actually save a document or changes to it, it deletes the ~ file and commits them to the actual document. However, the document delete will fail, and the save will likely fail also. If it works, you'll have a ~<filename> file left behind, for every document open, not just edit - opening the document by itself creates this file). If you don't use Office or don't allow Office docs in this share, it won't be an issue. Just a heads-up. i really apprciate your help but i already remove the check from delete box and also remove the check from delete subfolders and also all the users still able to delete i try to deny the permission but it deny completly by the meaning of i can creat folder in the share folder but even i can't rename it "it stay with the name of new folder" i try to delete but obvisley it will be denyed. i hope some oe can help me more in this matter thanks for every one replayed. and still need more help