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That's wacky, it worked for me. If you can't get any version to work let me know and I will give an exhaustive explanation of what I did. Cheers, Craig

oops, I messed up on that, but I have re-uploaded it. What you get should not be cab compressed. I tested the new version and it works. Cheers, Craig Very nice. Thank you. Testing it now. Yupper, I tested it and it worked just fine. I really like having minlogon automatically installed Cheers, Craig

Help! I am trying to add Bashrat's driverpacks to my groovy Nlite'd XP, I get this error during install, can anyone give me a clue? (see attached) Thank you, Craig

The "usual" way is to go and buy a LICENSE, the guys that sell them tend to give you a "Retail" original CD also in exchange for your money. You might want to read attentively these: http://www.msfn.org/board/Forum-Rules-Upda...ead-t18408.html before going further down this path. jaclaz I have a bunch of licenses. I build computers and I have many cases with the CD-Key sticker on it - that counts as a license I take it? It's just this particular disk is "upgrade" only. I don't see how it is against the rules to change the install routine to skip the "upgrade" check, but I will not mention it again. Cheers, Craig edit : oops, it just occurred to me that I can use my lastsession.ini with a "full" XP disk, I have a few. I didn't think of that initially.

Truly, it doesn't take an hour for DOS to format a 2 GB HDD like the good old days But I am unsure if the optimizations affect the RAM usage. Cheers, Craig

Well, that's why I write "out of 256" I've decided that Windows will use more RAM, if you have more RAM. So, try this: Nlite an XP, run it in VM to make sure it works, adjust the VM to have the same amount of RAM that the "real" PC has, then when you install it on the real PC it should still be similar. Another thing that may have something to do with it, I think VM emulates a 2D PCI video card and ISA Soundblaster 16 card. I'm willing to bet that the more hefty hardware uses more system memory. I don't know though... But I am convinced that VM should be "relative" to real life PCs. So.. how do I edit my XP CD so it is "full" and not an "upgrade" disk? Cheers, Craig

oops, I messed up on that, but I have re-uploaded it. What you get should not be cab compressed. I tested the new version and it works. Cheers, Craig

Hello again! I have made an Nlite'd XP I like very much! It has SP3 and Minlogon integrated, only 6 services running, DirectX installs, MAME32 36 runs. It uses only 51.08 MB RAM (out of 256 MB) - that's acceptable as far as I'm concerned - only a 64 MB DIMM is lost to the OS. To entire Windows CD, before I add driverpacks, is only 130 MB. The "Windows" directory is only 336 MB. I have a problem though - I made it out of an "upgrade" XP and I have to insert a 98 disk during install to prove that I'm "upgrading". How can I change my "upgrade" XP into a "full" XP ? Thank you, Craig

Hmmm, you seem to fail to see the main point of all the work that fdv a.k.a Fred de Vorck and number of other people (with some little contributions by me) have done in latest years, which is dedicated to the REMOVAL of Internet Explorer and of Explorer, also. And as said, the idea of a MINIMAL, EXPERIMENTAL anything is to be, well, MINIMAL and EXPERIMENTAL, so it is well suited for a "project OS" but VERY unsuitable for a "final user". jaclaz It's hard for me to see the point of "Windows" without "explorer.exe", I guess I am not hardcore enough! Cheers, Craig

Hey, I just read that "removing Network provisioning may cause startup lag" Also, here is a Minlogon hotfix that can be slipstreamed with Nlite http://tinyurl.com/2kkdmu Windows File Protection must be disabled in Nlite for that to work. This is found in Nlite under "options / patches" Cheers, Craig

Thank you, but I think that is getting ahead. I would first "optimize" the OS, so it uses very little RAM and leaves just the essentials for running MAME stuff. Then maybe after "optimize" the programs. Also I don't really understand - are you saying that compiling MAME with less drivers results in a faster MAME? By the way, in my experience running an older version of MAME32 will result in a big speed boost. Also if using MAME.exe, substitute with fastmame.exe of the same version, and you should see a speed boost. I found that MAME32 ver 36 only uses about 10 MB RAM, and fastmame coupled with Mala front end doesn't use much either. Cheers, Craig FYI, that screenshot is from a very early build, with cmd.exe as shell, last version uses blackbox, and it is runnning IN Qemu, which is a (free, Open Source) Virtual Machine. jaclaz Thank you for the explanation - is that OS able to use explorer.exe ? I took a look at it but it seemed too stripped out for a simple person to use as a project OS. Cheers, Craig I think I discovered the reason that Direct3D doesn't work, according to M$ Virtual PC FAQ, Direct3D isn't supported. Q: Can I run Direct3D applications inside Virtual PC or Virtual Server 2005 R2? A: No. Virtual Server 2005 R2 does not support Direct3D. Virtual Server emulates an S3Trio64 video card for 2d video.

Hey, I see that I have no sound in my Nlite'd install (I hadn't noticed because the speakers were off and the TV was on) Though the driver is installed correctly, and I have no problems in the device manager, I see this: But the driver is just fine: Any idea what I might have removed that could cause this? Thank you, Craig

Have you tried using minlogon ? That should speed up your boot. minlogon.7z

OK, I made a "tinyXP" with Nlite, it runs MAME32 36 but has an error with MAME 109. It installs DirectX just fine. It uses less than 40 MB RAM (out of 256). Here are some pics: Here is what I did to get that: (Made with XP SP3) ------------------ Nlite settings ------------------ Application kept: Wordpad Drivers: All are kept except : printers, tape drives, WLAN Hardware support: All are kept except : Modem support, Printer support, Smart cards, and Windows CE... Keyboards kept: None Languages kept: None Multimedia: Acm Core Codecs DirectX Intel Indeo codecs OpenGL Support Network kept: Map network drives... (needed for saving user password) MSMail... (needed for desktop search) Operating System Options kept: File Syetem... Format drive... Internet explorer core Logon... MDAC... Visual... Visual... visual... Services kept: Background... Event... Kerberos... Network provisioning (removal may cause startup lag?) Terminal... Directories kept: None "Tweaks" Services set to automatic: Cryptographic services Event log Plug and play Remote procedure call (RPC) Security Accounts Manager All others are disabled ------------------ Do you Nlite gurus see anything "superfluous" in my settings ? Thanks, Craig

Thanks for the link, I spent an hour on it but as far as I can tell it's a command line only affair - no desktop, no explorer, no CD drives, ect. Here is a screenshot of that running Qemu (whatever that is, some type of desktop?) What I'd like is a version of XP that has desktop, CD / DVD reader support (for copying MAME files over), and can run the 3 programs I wrote. As for placing the dependent files in the program directory - that's a good idea! As for using regsrv32.exe.... I have never done that, I will give it a try.... I found these instructions: Register the file using regsrv32.exe. You can do this by going to the directory where you saved the file and typing regsvr32 regxplor.dll After doing this, your desktop will contain a new item named Registry. You can explore this Registry just like you explore your file system. Groovy, thanks, anyway now that I have tried that option I still want to make a mega stripped version of XP or 2K that can only run my 3 programs. I don't mind if it is very large as I plan to keep all of XP's drivers and also add "driverpacks" - driver compatibility is important. Any idea where I could find out what the absolute bare essentials that can not be removed are? (when using Nlite) Thank you, Craig

OK, thank you. Now that I've made it though that little trial - I want to strip an XP or 2K CD down to nothing, excluding the bare essentials required to run MAME32, Mala and MAME. So I discovered their dependencies, but I don't know how to reference those dependencies with Nlite's removables, care to give me a clue? Here are the dependencies: MAME32's dependencies: advapi32.dll Advanced Windows 32 Base API DLL comctl32.dll Windows Common Controls Library comdlg32.dll Windows Common Dialogs Library dinput.dll Microsoft DirectInput DLL dsound.dll Microsoft DirectSound DLL gdi32.dll Windows GDI Client DLL kernel32.dll Microsoft Windows Kernel Process msvcrt.dll Microsoft C Runtime Library shell32.dll Microsoft Windows Shell Library user32.dll Windows User API Client DLL winmm.dll Windows Multimedia API Mala's dependencies (excluding the above): avifil32.dll Microsoft AVI File support library msvfw32.dll Microsoft Video for Windows DLL ole32.dll Microsoft OLE for Windows oleaut32.dll Microsoft OLE DLL version.dll Version Checking and File Installation MAME's dependencies (excluding the above): shlwapi.dll Microsoft Shell Light-weight Utility

OOPS! I'm so retarded... I thought check mark means "keep", when in fact check mark means "remove". *sigh* I don't get enough coffee... Thank you, Craig

nLite does not remove things "no matter what you choose". If those drivers are not in, either they were not on the CD for a start, or you do choose them for removal, or you choose them before and are reusing the files where the drivers have already been removed. 100% true - in theory. But in practice: Nlite modifies Windows in some way that makes it so the drivers for "Virtual PC 2004" are not installed. I am not the only one who has had this problem: http://www.msfn.org/board/legacy-drivers-S...ter-t81525.html No matter what - even if I download TinyXP (which is made with Nlite) it does not have the Virtual PC 2004 drivers. Also "XSOS" releases. I always leave all drivers and hardware support in Nlite: You can try it : 1. Install virtual PC 2004 2. In VPC, install retail XP, all drivers will be present 3. Nlite that retail XP but do not remove *any* drivers 4. Test the Nlite'd XP in VPC, it will not have the drivers in device manager Unless both "bigfatroundguy" and myself and the makers of "TinyXP and "XSOS" are all making the exact same mistake, Nlite does in fact modify XP CD to not include some of the drivers. --------- My problem could be Nlite's "hidden" stuff: Nlite reports that some things are "hidden" - how do I "unhide" these things? ---------- Or, perhaps I could simply "drag and drop" the drivers from the Windows retail CD to the Nlite'd CD files ? Is that possible? Thank you, Craig

Hi there! See bottom for most recent question. (it's always changing) Thank you Craig

Well you don't have to make the jump directly to XP - you could try 2K, it would be a less shocking transition I am new to this forum and was surprised to see people are still using 98, that bold! (and I thought I was bold by still using 2K!) I like 98, I was able to tweak it to use only 15 MB RAM on a project computer (MAME computer). But I couldn't imagine using it on a modern computer (3GHZ, 1GB, 700GB RAID 0, ect). What do you guys use to make 98 work well with modern hardware? And how does it bench compared to 2K / XP ? Cheers, Craig

Well, if my "relative" theory is right (and it might not be), perhaps the difference between VPC and real life is caused by the difference in hardware? Cheers, Craig

MS Virtual PC works well, and it's free: MSVPC You can run your favorite Win98 on top of WinXP Cheers, Craig

Hello from Maine, I acquired Windows FLP, apparently it is Microsoft's "TinyXP" I just hate how it requires a strong password to simply log in, is there any way to edit it so it does not require username and password to log in? Thank you, Craig

It should be "relative" If X is faster than Y in VPC, it should be faster than Y in real life too. If X uses 40 MB RAM in VPC, it should also use that much (or very close, depending on drivers) in real life too. That's what I decided anyway, so I benchmarked a bunch of different OSs in VPC before installing the fastest one on a real computer. Cheers, Craig

In my experience SP3 is faster than SP1 (also faster than SP2), try slipstreaming SP3 into your Nlite'd build and see if that speeds up your boot. Cheers, Craig