Totally agree with you. It's nice finally to meet some non ignorant like minded computer people. in a vast expanse of people with the disease "Must upgrade Hardware and Software ever month, brought to you by the Balmer Brainwashing division" Currently with my family PC we have a P3 - 1Ghz 512MB RAM and 128MB video card, running Windows 98 and Ubuntu. With Ubuntu it has something called Compizfusion on, this is a total Blitz over aero(there are some nice videos around demonstrating it), and Vista Aero needs something stupid like 2.4Ghz Dual Core, 2GB RAM 512mb video card, even then it could run slowly, it's just complete bloat-ware. I my self have 2 computers which have a 4MB OS with no need for a hard drive(though obviously I do need one so iv got a 7gb in one and a 1gb in the other[the file sizes are incredibly small]), containing a Vector art program, Bitmap program with Alpha transparency, a complete programming language which allows you to create full multitasking WIMP programs. I'm upgrading the other family PC running at 600Mhz to a 1Ghz processor at the minute and putting 98 on it so I can use it for my assignments for when I return to university.