Thanks sp00f I found it eventually doing a search I also found that there appears to be a 64 bit version of the KB933713 cabinet file. I have no idea as to what the direct download link is for those who might need it, but after updating their Vista 64 bit installtion the normal way they should be able to find it in the directory specified above. With the KB941236 cabinets there has been no sign of whether there are different 32 bit and 64 bit version, but the link pasted at http://www.msfn.org/board/Windows_DreamSce...te_t105175.html by Leviathany2k seems to be 2KB small than the file i retrieved from my Vista 64bit. Perhaps this is just a compression ratio. If someone knows whether the there is meant to seperate 32 and 64 bit files i would appreciate it. Thanks