raymerjacque

if you not gaming then superfetch is awsome, if you are gaming then it is a b!tch and does more harm than good. and majority of home users nowadays game online or run hectic games like gothic 3 etc that runs like crap when you don't have that extra ram that prefetch uses. so it is all about preference really. but that is why most home users hates prefetch.

no, you not understanding me here. my pc is on a network, i have firewall programs, antivirus, deamon tools, network tools and printers, netchat, media sharing tools, internet connection sharing etc .. ( all these are running on my machine ), not to mention people accessing my box 24/7. i cannot cut down on half the services most people can because i will screw up all the features i use. i need most of those services, so maybe you can disable everything and run xp on 37mb of ram, but i can't. XP uses almost 500mb of ram on my box with all these applications running, now i got vista to use less ram running all the same applications. if you wish to disable services go ahead, you can't do it in vlite at this stage anyway, you gotta do it manually after installation, so either way my preset is still pretty darn good as it does not affect services. i have achieved my goal so far with vista, i can't wait for the new vlite version so i can maybe tweak it some more tho .. but for now my goal has been met. 220mb is what vista uses with all aplications switched off and just internet connection sharing switched on. once i put all my apps on it goes to 402mb, but in xp it uses 464mb. xp uses 62mb of ram more than my vista at this stage.

ok now this is just plain weird. i have now done the windows updates, i changed nothing else, just the updates and vista is now using less ram than before with the same applications open. i do notice it has 39 processes instead of 40, but the updates must have disabled 1 or maybe the extra process was a program updating in the background ... either way my vista is now using only 402mb of ram, and that is with the Aero theme enabled with full glass effects. that is less ram than xp was using ..... here is a pic : ---------------- So i recommend you guys do the vista updates after installation, i saw among the updates there was compatibility updates among others. my vista is now using 62mb less ram than xp did, sweeeeet Ah, i forgot to mention, the new nvidia drivers still don't support fullscreen video on tv out i can use independant monitor configuration and open a movie on my tv while able to work on my monitor, but there is conflicts with real player, so that puts me back to square one since i use realplayer for south park Bad nvidia, very bad nvidia !!!

Awsome, below is the screenshot of my vista running at almost same speed as my xp ran. and i have the same programs running in background as i did in xp ( nod32, deamon tools, netchat, internet etc ... ) XP - 464mb of ram. Vista - 476mb of ram. That is only 8mb difference between the 2. very nice

all of the above is theory based so far, i have only tested it inside VMware, i will install vista within the next 2 hours or so on my system ( have to wait for connected users to get of the internet ) and then i will post stats and pics of vista running on my pc with the same programs running in background and then a descent comparison can be made between xp and vista. my aim was not to get vista running faster than xp. my aim was to get it more or less to run at the same speed and to minimize the slowness you experience with multi tasking in vista. the one major drawback that p!sses me off about vista is that fullscreen video is not supported by nvidia yet, ATI fully supports this function and for that reason i will never in my life ever buy a nvidia card again. with nvidia there are allways issues, allways have to get latest patch for everything you want to do. my other box with ati is using the same drivers it did a year ago and has no problems what soever. i will be trying the new nvidia drivers for vista tonight, so hope fullscreen works now ...

i was not thinking about my own pc. i am thinking in terms of installing it on many pc's, i can tweak my own and disable the services on my own pc that i don't want to use. but as a technician it would save me alot of time if i can have a preconfigured dvd that i just load into someone's pc and bam, job is done on installation. then i can just use a cd key changer to legalise his copy and job is done.... no need to everytime go through all the services and disable them. on a one time installation it is alright, but if you install windows 10 times a week then it is a tireless job. if i am able to tweak services in vlite i can make template dvd's. 1. with most disabled for people that do not use network functions or internet connection sharing and have systems with low ram. 2. for people with fairly descent ram and running on a network. 3. for people with low ram running on a network etc .....

read my post again. i already said that i have applications running in the background in xp. among them are nod32, netchat etc ... i also stated that my pc is on a network and i said that all the extras equal to around 150mb of ram, so minus 150mb from the total in the picture and you get a rough idea of how much ram xp is using on my system. by default windows vista uses around 450mb of ram on my system after install with no apps running ( around +/- 100mb more than xp ) . i have managed to bring it down from 450mb to 220mb without removing any functionality that i normaly would use.

yes if you using your pc for work purposes where you open and close office and other apps 2000 times a day then prefetch is a good thing, but for the home user that uses office once every two weeks and mostly plays games prefetch can be a b!tch. the home user is mostly using random programs, and every bit of memory and cache that i can spare helps, with prefetch switched off multi tasking and gaming is visibly faster than having prefetch switched on. i have tested this already. i left ready boost in the preset because readyboost is a good thing and i have not seen any drawbacks or reason to remove it.

well, i did not want to remove any functionality from vista since my pc is on a network and i use it for almost everything, i also have a printer and scanner and i make use of alot of third party items such as usb drives, cellphones etc ... the main thing that i removed that made the biggest difference was "super fetch" feature, basicly superfetch function makes use of availible ram to speed up applications. in other words, if you have 1gb memory it will take 300 - 400mb of unused ram and use it to store all your most commonly used applications, so everytime you open an application it open really, really fast. while it is a nice feature to have it also has a MAJOR drawback. once superfetch stores applications in that extra section of ram, that ram is used and you cannot access it, so when you want to play a game or something that requires alot of ram, the game will run very slow because you have "x" ammount of ram where you would normally have "y" ammount of ram availible. but i removed alot of other things as well, but superfetch made the biggest difference. to import my preset simply run the file an extract it to it's default path, then look at the menu on the top left of vlite program, there is an import feature there. good luck...

I installed vista through VMWare after customising the disc with vlite. It is ultimate version and i removed none of the functionality at all, not even the games or even the windows mail. here i have 2 screenshots of the task manager. first one of vista after installation. Vista : -------- second i have one of xp, take into consideration that xp has a few items running in background, but they amount exactly to 158.709mb. and even if you subtract that total from memory in the pic you still get 305.291mb usage. XP : ----- my point is that even in vlite beta version i was able to make vista run at basicly same if not faster speed to windows xp .... looking forward to release of next version i have uploaded my preset, you can just remove the drivers from the preset. vista.exe

hmmm, that all sounds extremely complicated and i am not sure it can be done. but instead of everyone trying to force the readyboost and superfetch features, why not just tackle the root of the problem ? windows vista has more than half the system services running apon boot up. of those services you probly using only 1 quarter, i think a better tweak would be to be able to disable alot of unecesarry system services. a tweak like this would be so much less complicated and alot more effective. i have disabled services manually after installation when i was testing vista and ram consumption was down by around 100mb, and even then i am sure i could have disabled alot more ... if these services could be tweaked into and unattended cd/dvd that would be a big bonus, but i am sure that it is a feature that will still probly be added into a future version along the line somewhere. right now there are more annoying and need things that are being addressed as far as i see on the posts i have read. ( annoying drivers popups, completely unattended setup etc .. ).

I know you guys hate it when people ask how far off the next version is, and i hate asking or imposing. but i am holding off installing vista untill next version and i was just wondering how far development is. I am basicly scanning this website on an hourly bassis ..... an estimate would be great, even if you just answer with "we are in final stages" or "release is still a good few months away" or "won't be too long now" , or any answer would be great. if it will still be a while then i will go ahead and install vista as it is now, if you are close to finnish then i will wait. you are doing a great job and i don't want to step on your toes or anything ...