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How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
Did you start GUI mode from the internal disk? Which one? Where boot files were placed? Was boot.ini correct?My intentions for BOOTWS were to replicate default Windows behavior and get boot.ini generated correctly. What cdob posted is a workaround, in case you explicitly want to install in a particular disk, and has to be created manually. What do we do if you want to install on the first disk using the same entries? Or what entries would we create to get some universal solution? I'd say the better solution in case one wants to get around these limitations is to disable the unneeded disk during setup, rather that changing boot order and forcibly redirecting setup. Another way around could be a set of BOOTWS folders/entries and en entry for each of them in menu.lst, something like: Install to first internal disk Install to second internal disk etc. etc. I can't see a way to "understand" what BIOS boot order was and adjust accordingly, since both Setup and grub4dos do not take it in account. Yet to test what happens in SATA/AHCI mode, it may produce different results. I will be testing tomorrow, just need to check if the test machine had option to switch IDE/AHCI. Setupldr.bin in x64 is in I386, txtsetup.sif is in AMD64. Added: BTW- did you encounter the same behavior with the arrow keys while in winsetup.lst menus? -
cannot read internal hdd at firststage
ilko_t replied to usbwinsetboot's topic in Install Windows from USB
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How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
Nice, workaround is working. However, lets see if we can replicate default Windows behavior. Your disks are in IDE mode, meaning second disk is on emulated secondary IDE channel. Does Windows prefer the master channel ignoring BIOS boot order? It seems yes, no matter Setup is from USB or CD. If in SATA mode, would second disk get hd1 and first hd2 in grub4dos, so boot order gets honored? Quick draft: winsetup.lst color black/cyan yellow/cyan timeout 10 default /windefault title Back to Main Menu configfile /menu.lst title First part of Windows XP Professional SP2 setup from partition 0 root (hd0,0) map --mem /WINSETUP/XPpSP2.ISO (0xff) savedefault 2 geometry (hd9) && configfile /BOOTWS/10.lst geometry (hd8) && configfile /BOOTWS/9.lst geometry (hd7) && configfile /BOOTWS/8.lst geometry (hd6) && configfile /BOOTWS/7.lst geometry (hd5) && configfile /BOOTWS/6.lst geometry (hd4) && configfile /BOOTWS/5.lst geometry (hd3) && configfile /BOOTWS/4.lst geometry (hd2) && configfile /BOOTWS/3.lst geometry (hd1) && configfile /BOOTWS/2.lst title Second part of 2000/XP/2003 setup / Boot first internal hard disk savedefault geometry (hd9) && configfile /BOOTWS/10.lst geometry (hd8) && configfile /BOOTWS/9.lst geometry (hd7) && configfile /BOOTWS/8.lst geometry (hd6) && configfile /BOOTWS/7.lst geometry (hd5) && configfile /BOOTWS/6.lst geometry (hd4) && configfile /BOOTWS/5.lst geometry (hd3) && configfile /BOOTWS/4.lst geometry (hd2) && configfile /BOOTWS/3.lst geometry (hd1) && configfile /BOOTWS/2.lst Attached are contents of BOOTWS folder. Chenall's grub4dos version is required: http://www.nufans.net/grub4dos/chenall/gru...-2009-12-23.rar First test with 1 internal disk and USB card reader- setup works fine. Small glitch- in QEMU and real hardware upon displaying winsetup.lst, to go through menus up and down keys no longer work, left and right work instead Same behavior with previous grub4dos versions- 2009-10-16 and 2009-03-31. I guess those nested menus or config files without title aren't quite proper. Boot-land.net is down, cannot get support from grub4dos developers currently. There should be a better way to put USB disk last and shift all other disks one position up. Have to think also about cases when USB disk is fd0. cdob, glad to see you again around Added: @cybpsych- you need to read the posts just above yours. BOOTWS.zip -
Problem missing files bootvid.dll or SP2.CAB
ilko_t replied to greave's topic in Install Windows from USB
You may also want to try turning antivirus and similar software off while copying files, as well as other USB stick. Which tool did you use? What version? -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
Thanks Did you use latest beta or 0.2.3? -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
You may look here: http://www.msfn.org/board/solved-install-m...sb-t114543.html and here: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...iew=getlastpost Boot-land.net is down currently, last few days is up and down, hopefully will be fixed soon. -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
I don't think Windows 7/Vista will see the second partition in case of removable drive, such as your USB stick. You are limited to the first partition, unless you "flip" the removable bit using the appropriate manufacturer tool, but this is another story. To stay on the safe side, first try with a single partition only, not multipartition, while partitioning in BootIce. -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
I have no other clues, Vista/7 setup move to USB is quite straightforward, nothing is changed or added to the source. Either way should work as the others, the only difference is how BOOTMGR is launched, but it should not matter, or maybe does ? -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
Ja9, I think it has something to do with your source. Is it original? I've had the same issue until used the original Windows 7 which came with the laptop, no more "missing device driver" errors. -
cannot read internal hdd at firststage
ilko_t replied to usbwinsetboot's topic in Install Windows from USB
How did you pass Text mode if the internal disk is not shown? What disk did you select to install on? If the internal disk is not shown either change in BIOS to IDE emulation or integrate the appropriate SATA driver in your source. http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/33/ http://maxeasyguide.blogspot.com/2008/04/p...llation-cd.html Please do not double post. -
Install 2000/XP/2003 from RAM loaded small ISO
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
I think I've found another workaround for the missing drive letters at start of GUI: Add to setup.cmd, right above echo no %TAGFILE% drive found FOR /L %%G IN (0,1,20) DO ( mnt.exe Y: \device\harddisk%%G\partition1 dir Y:%TAGFILE% > nul 2>&1 && set CDDRIVE=Y: if defined CDDRIVE goto :CDDRIVE_found ) http://www.uwe-sieber.de/files/unmnt10.zip Only mnt.exe is needed. In case of x64 place it in SysWow64 folder and change mnt.exe to %systemroot%\SysWow64\mnt.exe in setup.cmd. txtsetup.sif: 32 bit: mnt.exe=1,,,,,,,2,0,0 64 bit: mnt.exe=55,,,,,,,82,0,0 Worked in XP 32 bit and 2003 64 bit, haven't checked 2000 yet, for the tests USB entries in txtsetup.sif were not modified, left them as in the original. No silly warnings because of the empty USB card reader slots too. -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
@satire_rutilant Are still around? I think I've found a solution to the problem you had. Let me know if you want to test it. -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
Change this in winsetup.lst on USB stick root: map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0)on both places to map (hd0) (hd2) map (hd1) (hd0) map (hd2) (hd1) Change also chainloader /I386/SETUPLDR.BIN to cat --locate=rdisk(1) --replace=rdisk(2) /I386/TXTSETUP.SIF chainloader /I386/SETUPLDR.BIN Replace grldr in root with grldr from this archive: http://www.nufans.net/grub4dos/chenall/gru...-2009-12-23.rar Try installing again. On which disk are you installing Windows? On the partitioning screen which one of the internal disks is numbered first and which one is second? Added: When you do the above changes start the program again and select only syslinux option, press GO and ignore the warning about NTFS. This is to put back grub4dos MBR. Do you have a USB card reader as well on that machine? -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
Was that 0.2.3 version or 1.0 beta? If 0.2.3- Did you move the FIXED/REMOVABLE radio button? WinSetupFromUSB.log file in program directory would be helpful. Zip it and attach it with your reply. If 1.0 beta- how many internal disks do you have? -
[Release] Siginet's PLoP USB Boot Manager Installer
ilko_t replied to Siginet's topic in Install Windows from USB
On a working Win7 system, which already has an entry for NTLDR in BCD, I added c:\dummy="test" to boot.ini, alongside the existing c:\grldr="Grub4dos"."Test" was displayed upon reboot in bootmgr's menu. Next try- rename ntldr to ntldr.bak. Upon reboot the new entry in boot.ini "test" is still displayed. Ntldr is not used in order to display contents of BOOT.INI, which is apparently read by BOOTMGR. Haven't tested whether contents of BOOT.INI will be displayed if there is no entry for NTLDR in BCD. What's interesting- selecting "Grub4dos" in BOOTMGR menu leads to error from BOOTMGR's , although it's present, next to NTLDR, BOOTMGR and BOOT.INI. It does work when selected from NTLDR's menu.Rename NTLDR.BAK to NTLDR. Add to BOOT.INI: d:\grldr="Grub4dos D" e:\grldr="Grub4dos E" and remove c:\dummy="test". BOOTMGR displays What happened to Grub4dos D and E? Go figure. First partition is hidden primary. It might be ignored by NTLDR, but counted by BOOTMGR. Won't go any deeper, this is improper way of adding new boot menu entries. Proper and documented ways are: Add the desired entry in BCD. Or add an entry for NTLDR in BCD if not present, next add whatever you need to BOOT.INI and use BOOTMGR's "Earlier versions of Windows" menu to launch NTLDR, next launch whatever is needed from NTLDR's menu. This is only in case 2000/XP/2003 are already present, otherwise no point of going through all this. -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
What seems strange in $winnt$.inf? I find it perfectly normal. The active partition on the boot disk (rdisk(0)) gets first drive letter C:, and hard disk numbering is according to disk drivers and bus enumeration, not ARC path, ignoring BIOS boot order or which was the boot device. \device\harddiskX\partitionY numbering differs from the ARC path, we would have been so lucky if it doesn't If you map hd0 to hd2, hd2 to hd1 and hd1 to hd2 all should be fine. But this is workaround, not a proper solution. We cannon know in advance what user intentions are in order to do similar mapping. It could be covered in readme, or message box. I am more interested in putting USB disk as last HD, or even hd21, shifting all internal one position up, and go with the default behavior. Will play with this once I figure out why on some machines USB disks do not get drive letters at start of GUI, this is priority and I haven't stopped working on this. And yes, doing all this from some kind of PE has some advantages, but we talked about the limitations many times, not going in that subject again. -
[Release] Siginet's PLoP USB Boot Manager Installer
ilko_t replied to Siginet's topic in Install Windows from USB
I think boot.ini will be read by bootmgr if there is already an entry for ntldr in BCD. In other words- simply creating boot.ini does not guarantee that you will be able to start PLoP this way. -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
In grub4dos CLI I see my first harddisk with Windows 7 as hd1. Indeed the XP bootfiles are going to hd1 and the BOOTMGR-type bootsector is then changed to NTLDR-type. But that is what causes the problem, because when you remove the USB-stick and Reboot, then second harddisk gives error NTLDR is missing. Trying to reboot from first harddisk gives then Windows boot config error, since boot.ini wants to boot from rdisk(2) instead of rdisk(1) So the computer is not bootable from any of the two internal harddisks. The problem is that after booting from USB-stick then TXT-mode of XP Setup will place the XP bootfiles wrongly on the first internal disk instead of on the second internal disk where XP is installed. So Setup ignores boot order and honors on what channel they are connected on. Similar behavior should be when installing from a CD too. Boot.ini gets wrong value because USB stick is mapped to hd1, hence the second internal disk gets wrongly rdisk(2). This should be easily fixable You must have missed that: or this one: ... You are joking, right? "Impossible" made this subforum exist and all the work done in here, "impossible" brought up this method, all the previous, and so many other projects, come on, heads up Thanks for tests, useful as always. Added: Are both internal disks SATA? Are they in AHCI or IDE mode? -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
I couldn't quite understand this part: Did you set the second internal disk as second in BIOS boot order, and first internal as third in boot order? Boot files are expected to go on hd1 as seen in grub4dos CLI, since it's mapped/switched to hd0. When you tried again which disk was hd1? -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
@Wimb I guess when you use shortcut key (F8, F12, whatever) your boot order in BIOS gets ignored/reset, so your first hard disk becomes first again and the second is second. The rest of your report is understandable and expected, if the above is true. Just check in grub4dos cli when using boot menu shortcut, is hd1 the disk with 7, or it is the second hard disk. I'd be grateful if you try changing boot order in BIOS- USB first, second your second hard disk, third your first hard disk and try again, this time NOT using F8/F12 in order to start from USB. In this case everything should go smoothly. @Valeron- try this little nice application: http://www.roadkil.net/program.php?ProgramID=12 Use PhysicalDiskN, not the drive letters in order to image the whole disk. And test the image once created. -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
It's fixed in 1.0 beta4 I think, what version did you use? I am afraid not for now, that's tricky, a lot of things are generated on-the-fly according to the source and it would be tricky to keep track of what was added in order to remove it. Nope, just copy this image somewhere and edit menu.lst in the root, it has commented examples which you'd need to uncomment and change per your needs. Updates from the program would require dedicated hosting. As for links in readme- yes, in the final versions I update it accordingly. -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
I'd try updating BIOS, or looking for some funny option in it, as many Eeepc's have, maybe different USB stick or port too. Usb disk formatting or partitioning also may matter. Windows version should not be that relevant, it's a known issue, check: http://www.msfn.org/board/2-t139737.html It was fixed by setting USB drivers to load earlier than default, and worked on all systems I tested. It seems this Eeepc has its own opinion, yet to find out what. -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
Just got report for EeePC 1000x, 160GB HDD, latest BIOS and 4GB USB stick- everything went smoothly using beta3 and 4 -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
Thanks for all this info, really helps. I'll try to find same netbook and test, will keep you informed. Has anyone else used any of the 1.0 beta versions on EeePC, 1000H in particular, and succeeded/failed with the installation? -
How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI
ilko_t replied to ilko_t's topic in Install Windows from USB
Ok, please check winsetup.log when this appears and also open \WINSETUP\XPpSP2.ISO with 7zip for example and extract txtsetup.sif. Include it with the contents of winsetup.log. I hope these Eeepc's will not be the troublemakers and something else is wrong Added: In the new cmd window what happens when you type U: and press enter? Does it change to U: or says "the system cannot find the drive specified"?