wobbly Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 I'm just wondering if anyone knows how to enable PAE in Vista. I have been searching the net but I can't find any tutorial... Please Help!!!
fizban2 Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 you don't need to enable pAE to address 4 gigs of memory, only if you want to address more then 4 gig would you need to enable it
Jeronimo Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 That is true, furthermore only 64-bit editions of Vista support over 4GB of physical memory. Found this site with more information, but it has not been updated for Windows Vista:Operating Systems and PAE Support
MFCK Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 you don't need to enable pAE to address 4 gigs of memory, only if you want to address more then 4 gig would you need to enable itHi all !I have 4 gig of memory in my PC and Vista 32 recognize only 3326MB.If i install Vista 64 all my memory is recognised.I must say that Vista 32 do not use PAE ! if i'm not wrong.
Jeronimo Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) If you disable pagefile/swapfile (is it around 770MB?) completely and then restart does Vista still not allocate all of your RAM?According to this maximum RAM is 4GB for 32-bit editions. If this covers total memory including pagefile I don't know, but I think so judging from the above. Edited February 20, 2007 by Jeronimo
MFCK Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 Hi !My swap is always disabled.I dont need it with 4Go of RAM (Vista is more responsive without swap).With swap file enabled/disabled the system says 3326MB with Vista 32 and 4096MB with Vista 64 !
weezul2 Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 vista 32 supports 3gb of ram not 4. dont know why, but i read it on winsupersite and its never steered me wrong before
MFCK Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 Hi !Ok but 3gb = 3 X 1024 = 3072 but my system says 3326M !Why this number ?Vista 64 says 4096MB !?
cluberti Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 Video RAM shadowing, BIOS hot-add memory reservations, PCI-E and PCI-X slots - all of those things chew up RAM because they get reserved on boot. If you run msinfo32 from start > run, how much "Total Physical Memory" does it show? If it shows 4GB (~4029 or higher), then it's a BIOS issue.
sprack Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) How much memory do you have on your videocard or in the case of UMA video, how much did you allocate to the framebuffer. Per MS spec they will mirror that amount in main mem. IIRC its described in the WHQL docs for meeting logo requirements.Hi !Ok but 3gb = 3 X 1024 = 3072 but my system says 3326M !Why this number ?Vista 64 says 4096MB !?And a quick note on PAE, if Vista detects it in CPUID it'll use it. Edited February 20, 2007 by sprack
MFCK Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 (edited) Hi all !Everest report:--------[ EVEREST Ultimate Edition 2007 © 2003-2007 Lavalys, Inc. ]--------------------------------------------------- Version EVEREST v3.80.888 Beta Benchmark Module 2.1.184.0 Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/ Report Type Quick Report Computer MFCK-PC Generator Mfck Operating System Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 6.0.6000 (Vista Retail) Date 2007-02-21 Time 22:47--------[ Memory ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Physical Memory: Total 3325 MB Used 702 MB Free 2622 MB Utilization 21 % Swap Space: Total 3207 MB Used 725 MB Free 2482 MB Utilization 23 % Virtual Memory: Total 6532 MB Used 1427 MB Free 5105 MB Utilization 22 % Physical Address Extension (PAE): Supported by Operating System Yes Supported by CPU Yes Active Yes Edited February 21, 2007 by MFCK
MFCK Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Msinfo32 report:OS Name Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate Version 6.0.6000 Build 6000 Other OS Description Not Available OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name MFCK-PC System Manufacturer INTEL_ System Model DP965LT_ System Type X86-based PC Processor Intel® Core2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz, 2128 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. MQ96510J.86A.1618.2007.0117.1535, 17/01/2007 SMBIOS Version 2.4 Windows Directory C:\Windows System Directory C:\Windows\system32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1 Locale France Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.0.6000.16407" User Name Mfck-PC\Mfck Time Zone Standard Time Total Physical Memory 3 325,11 MB Available Physical Memory 2,59 GB Total Virtual Memory 3,13 GB Available Virtual Memory 2,45 GB Page File Space ,00 KB
MFCK Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 (edited) Hi all !cluberti you was true ! Ok, here some Intel explanations :2.1 Memory Map 2.1.1 Addressable Memory The board utilizes 8 GB of addressable system memory. Typically the address space that is allocated for PCI Conventional bus add-in cards, PCI Express configuration space, BIOS (SPI Flash), and chipset overhead resides above the top of DRAM (total system memory). On a system that has 8 GB of system memory installed, it is not possible to use all of the installed memory due to system address space being allocated for other system critical functions. These functions include the following: BIOS/ SPI Flash (8 Mbits) Local APIC (19 MB) Digital Media Interface (40 MB) Front side bus interrupts (17 MB) PCI Express configuration space (256 MB) MCH base address registers, internal graphics ranges, PCI Express ports (up to 512 MB) Memory-mapped I/O that is dynamically allocated for PCI Conventional and PCI Express add-in cards Intel Desktop Board DP965LT Technical Product Specification The amount of installed memory that can be used will vary based on add-in cards and BIOS settings. Figure 14 shows a schematic of the system memory map. All installed system memory can be used when there is no overlap of system addresses. 8 GBVista 32 show 3326MB in control panel/system and task manager display 3207MBVista 64 show 4096MB in control panel/system and task manager display 3325MB Edited February 21, 2007 by MFCK
cluberti Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 cluberti you was true ! :I wouldn't lie to you
amenx Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 I've recently upped my RAM to 4gb and it also reads 3325mb in the Task Mgr. Frankly I did this out of curiousity as I had an extra 2gb of RAM laying around so plugged them in. Didnt really expect to see any improvement in performance but I was wrong! Certain games that would write several hundred mb to the pagefiles would do that no more, still some pagefile activity but its was minimal. And it was much smoother playing these games. Also Superfetch seems to load more apps and assign more memory to them with 4gb, at certain points the task mgr was reporting almost all the memory used with less than 10mb free, so you know these will be quite responsive when needed. This with a 965P chipset board (Gigabyte DS3), I think older boards may not see the same results.
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