Unknown software exception

[zeptin]

I have been using nLite for quite some time, but recently (after a reinstallation, I suppose) I have started to

notice some error messages and appparent 'problems' while using XP. The most repoducible example I can

think of is when I close the folder I store my mp3s in. I get this error message approximately 50% of the

time: (or, after I've browsed through it a bit. I'm afraid I'm not too sure)

Window title-> 'Proxy Desktop: Explorer.EXE - Application Error'

Error message -> 'The exception unknown software exception (0x0eedfade) occurred in the application at

location 0x7c812a5b'

I don't suppose it's the fact that it's a rather big folder with many subdirectories that's causing this problem,

but I have a suspicion it's one of the RyanVM addons (or the actual update pack itself) that may be causing

these strange errors. However, I do not have the time to check each addon individually, so I was wondering

if anyone else has experienced similar symptoms? I found a post from someone who got the same error

code, roughly, but they didn't seem to have found the solution.

While writing this, I experimented a bit and discovered it happens with my games folder as well, also rather

large but with far fewer subdirectories. This isn't a crippling problem for me, but it looks ugly. Clean

computers are happy computers As an additional note, when shutting down the computer it seems to also

hang explorer.exe, which has to be manually 'End now'-ed.

I use nLite to integrate these addons because I have had insurmountable hassles mixing nLite with the actual integrator, so I apologise if this post shouldn't be here at all.

[MGadAllah]

Welcome to MSFN mate

I have a suspicion it's one of the RyanVM addons (or the actual update pack itself) that may be causing these strange errors.if this post shouldn't be here at all.

If you are talking about latest Ryan pack, I do not think that it could be the reason because I've tested it many times (I did integrated it only using nLite) without any errors at all.

it could be on of the other add-ons ... but when did it start to happen? Which version you are using?

But let's think in another direction...I'd like to suggest you a thing that may help... Integrating Ryan pack is more important rather then programs add on, because programs can be installed with switches or any other way while Ryan pack is not.

So...you may try Ryan pack only with nLite, and install all your programs with switches using different methods like WPI, or normal .cmd file... and do not worry about if all programs can be installed with switches or not .. because if application has no switch (I doubt) there are many alternatives for most applications, i.e. using Real Alternative instead of RealPlayer....etc

In order to make a good CD, you have to test and retest many times in VMware or any other virtual machine.

Hope this help !!

[zeptin]

Thank you for your reply and kind welcome, MGadAllah

I have done countless tests of my CD over the months I've assembled all the additions and registry

modifications etc.

But there's always the possibility I missed something. And who keeps a 60gb mp3 folder on their VM to

test closing folders with? ;o

Since so many people use the RVM pack, I would also assume it's not that which is causing the problem.

Judging by the specific program giving the message (namely, the Explorer shell) would I be justified in

thinking it's a shell extension addon that could be causing the problem? I don't use a lot of those, though...

I'll try your suggestion about using the pack on its own, but I've experienced several disturbing differences

between an installation on a VM and on my actual computer (not just the drivers either )

EDIT: I always use the latest version of everything. I'm meticulous and borderline obsessive about this

Edited December 16, 2006 by zeptin

[MGadAllah]

Did you tweaked any thing using nLite, I mean used the tweaks or option screens in nLite.

Also try to reduce your mp3 folder to multiple folders by type or by category (I doubt that it could be the reason).

did you test it while it is Ryan pack only beeing integrated?

try to integrate ryan pack only and see what will happen?

[zeptin]

I modify quite a few things, such as the TCP connection limit (on that note, is there any point going beyond

100? I use bittorrent programs and I have a rather slow connection, so I want it to be optimal) and a

plethora of registry edits (a few of my own, and lots within nLite)

I'm building a new image to try test in VMWare, but I've NEVER seen that error within a VM. Could be that I

never test it thoroughly enough, but hey...

If anyone could tell me an easy and preferably fast way to get the genres for a couple hundred bands at

once I'd be grateful, although it probably won't get rid of the error.

[Kiki Burgh]

hi zeptin! kindly post your Last_Session.ini ... i think too it could be some addons that affects the Explorer shell ... but it could be something else as well ...

[zeptin]

[Main]
Env = 1.2.1 - 2.0.50727.42.Microsoft Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2
Target = Windows XP Professional SP:2 - 5.1.2600.2180 - English (United States)

[Tasks]
Remove Components
Unattended Setup
Integrate Drivers
Hotfixes and Update Packs
Tweaks
Options

[Components]
;# Drivers #
Modems
;# Multimedia #
Media Center
;# Network #
MSN Explorer
Windows Messenger
;# Operating System Options #
.NET Framework
Manual Install and Upgrade
Tour
;# Compatibility #

[KeepFiles]
msconfig.exe

[RemoveFiles]
clock.avi

[Options]
CABMerge
DisableFreereq
DisableMinMem
DupeFiles
ProfilesDir = "%SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings"
TargetPath = "WINDOWS"
temp_dir = %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
AdvTweaks
NoISOPreset

[Patches]
TcpIp = 1000
DoUxTheme
DoSFC

[Services2]
RDSessMgr,4
wuauserv,4
mnmsrvc,4
helpsvc,4
ImapiService,4
SwPrv,4
wscsvc,4
srservice,4
TlntSvr,4
WmdmPmSN,4
PolicyAgent,4
RemoteRegistry,4
ScardSvr,4
UPS,4
VSS,4

[Tweaks]
Boot and Shutdown-Disable saving Last Good state at boot
Boot and Shutdown-Logon Page-Welcome screen
Desktop-Internet Explorer icon-Hide
Desktop-My Computer icon-Show
Desktop-My Documents icon-Show
Desktop-My Network Places icon-Hide
Desktop-Recycle Bin icon-Show
Explorer-Advanced Search: preconfigure options
Explorer-Classic Control Panel
Explorer-Disable Accessibility keyboard shortcuts
Explorer-Disable Beep on errors
Explorer-Disable File MRU-List
Explorer-Disable Prefix: Shortcut to
Explorer-Disable shortcut arrow
Explorer-Display the contents of system folders
Explorer-Launch folder windows in a seperate process
Explorer-Remove Send To on context menu
Explorer-Show extensions of known file-types
Explorer-Show hidden files and folders
Internet Explorer-Disable Internet Explorer link creation
Internet Explorer-Disable Market Place bookmark
Internet Explorer-Disable Media Player 6.4 created bookmarks
Internet Explorer-Disable Outlook Express link creation
Internet Explorer-Disable Password-Caching
Internet Explorer-Disable sound when popup is blocked
Internet Explorer-Enable Google URL-Search
Internet Explorer-Keep IE URL-History for-0 Days
Internet Explorer-Set Homepage-about:blank
Internet Explorer-Set IE-Cache limit to-1 MB (min)
Internet Explorer-Set Internet Explorer to accept 10 connects at a time
My Computer-Remove Manage from Context Menu
My Computer-Remove Search from Context Menu
My Computer-Remove Shared Documents
Network-Allow receiving Remote Assistance-Disable
Network-Disable administrative shares
Network-Disable Simple File Sharing
Network-Remote Desktop-Disable
Performance-Disable Last accessed Timestamp on files
Performance-Disable Optimize harddisk when idle
Performance-Disable Tracking of Broken Shortcut Links
Performance-Disable Warn on low disk space
Performance-Use Windows classic folders / No Tasks Sidepanel
Privacy-Disable Driver Update Internet prompt
Privacy-Disable Error Reporting
Privacy-Disable File MRU-List
Privacy-Disable Tracking of most used programs
Privacy-Remove Alexa
Security-Disable Antivirus notification
Security-Disable Firewall notification
Security-Screensaver Password-Protection-Disabled
Start Menu-Control Panel-Display as a link
Start Menu-Disable and Remove Documents List from Start Menu
Start Menu-Disable Highlight newly installed programs
Start Menu-Disable popup on first boot
Start Menu-Do not use Personalized Menus
Start Menu-My Computer-Display as a link
Start Menu-My Documents-Display as a link
Start Menu-My Music-Don't display this item
Start Menu-My Network Places-Display as a link
Start Menu-My Pictures-Don't display this item
Start Menu-Network Connections-Display as Connect to menu
Start Menu-Number of programs on Start menu-0
Start Menu-Printers and Faxes-Don't display this item
Start Menu-Reduce popup delay
Start Menu-Remove Help and Support
Start Menu-Remove Pinned Apps List from Start Panel
Start Menu-Remove Search For People from Search
Start Menu-Remove Search the Internet from Search
Start Menu-Remove Set Program Access and Defaults
Start Menu-Remove User name
Start Menu-Remove Windows Catalog shortcut
Start Menu-Remove Windows Update shortcut
Taskbar-Disable Group similar Taskbar buttons
Taskbar-Disable Hide inactive icons
Taskbar-Disable Language-Bar
Taskbar-Disable Windows Tour popup
Taskbar-Hide Volume Control Icon in System Tray
Taskbar-Lock the Taskbar-Yes
Visual Effects-Use a background image for each folder type-Disable
Windows Media Player-Accept Privacy Statement
Windows Media Player-Disable all streaming protocols
Windows Media Player-Disable auto-add music to library
Windows Media Player-Disable automatic codec download
Windows Media Player-Disable metadata retrieval
Windows Media Player-Disable MRU
Windows Media Player-Disable silent acqusition
Windows Media Player-Disable starting with Media Guide
Windows Media Player-Enhanced privacy settings
Windows Media Player-No visualization
Windows Media Player-Remove all context menu entries

[Unattended]
UnattendMode = 1
ComputerType = Automatic
HibernationNo
LogonCount = 1
DisableSRestore
MaximumDataStorePercentOfDisk = 12
RestorePointLife = 30
DesktopTheme = Default||
IISInstall = 2
AutoUpdates = 4
AutoUDay = 5
AutoUHour = 15
ProgFilesPath = "\Program Files"

[NetAdapter1]
connname = ""
macaddress = ""
ipaddress = "192.168.0.1"
subnetmask = "255.255.255.0"
defaultgateway = ""
dnsserver1 = ""
dnsserver2 = ""
winsserver = ""
netbiossetting = "0"
ipxnetworknumber = "00000000"
ipxnetworkframetype = "0xFF"

[GuiRunOnce]
%systemdrive%\install\install.cmd

[Drivers]
E:\XP Extras\Drivers\000_intel\865.inf,0
E:\XP Extras\Drivers\001_lan\Netrtlx.inf,0
E:\XP Extras\Drivers\002_modem\mdmhamrw.inf,0
E:\XP Extras\Drivers\003_sound\WDM\Alcxwdm.inf,0

[Hotfixes]
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\Themes\Addon_VSPack_dgelwin.cab
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\Codec Packs\vcpack419_addon.7z
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\MrsP_Copy_Handler_Addon_v1.28.cab
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\Kels_CPLBonus_addon_v4.3.CAB
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\Kels_DepWalker_addon_v2.1.CAB
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\MrsP_Directory_Lister_Addon_v0.7.2.cab
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\MrsP_Flexible_Renamer_Addon_v7.3.cab
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\MrsP_HTTP_File_Server_Addon_v2.0.032.cab
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\Kels_Uber_Addon_v7.3.9.CAB
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\MrsP_Advanced_LAN_Pump_Addon_v2.31.cab
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\ProgramAddons_MakeISO1.3.CAB
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\Kels_SilentNight_MicroBurner_addon_v5.0build25.CAB
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\MrsP_PeerGuardian_NT_Addon_v2.0.beta6.cab
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\RogueSpearAddonsOpenOffice_2.0.4.zip
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\RogueSpearAddonsRuntimes_2.2.zip
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\RogueSpearAddonsTheDude_2.0.0.12.zip
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\RVMUpdatePack2.1.4.7z
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\Kels_UPXShell_CPL_addon_v1.25.cab
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\MrsP_WAssociate_Addon_v3.4.2.cab
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\MrsP_WinLAME_Encoder_Addon_vPR4.cab
F:\Downloads\Windows XP, Drivers & Fixes\RyanVM\Addons\Foxy_WinMerge_2.4.6_Addon_v1.0.cab
F:\Downloads\Programs\Shell Mods, Explorer Replacements & Themes\XPize46FullBETA1.exe

Probably isn't the depwalker or peerguardian addons. And 'DupeFiles' & 'CabMerge' under options were only

changed for this latest install, so they aren't the culprit.

I should probably cut down on the number of addons But they're so useful...

[Win-Minion]

Hey zeptin

I too have experienced the Windows Explorer "0x0eedfade" "run time error 217" and have been able to fix it.

Before I figured out the solution I scoured the web for answers but nothing out there solved my problem. The most common cause of this error was either by a virus or a bug in IE7. So before you try my suggestion you might want to verify whether or not you fall under these two categories.

My problem occurred under 2 circumstances on two different Windows XP machines.

The 1st incident happened after I deleted some of the program folders that XDesk (a virtual desktop program) uses. To fix this I used an install of XDesk from another machine and manually copied the missing folders back into the XDesk directory.

The 2nd incident happened when I deleted an application folder under my Current User's Start Menu. Afterwards I constantly got the "0x0eedfade" error.

When I restored the deleted folder this problem disappeared. Afterwards, I uninstalled the program that caused this, to avoid any unwanted complications from cropping up in the future.

Given these two examples I think the error occurs when you move/delete a file or folder that a currently installed and/or running application uses. My suggestion would be to uninstall any applications you installed just before the error occurred.

I should also note that I only got this error when I deleted or moved a file/folder for two relatively obscure applications, and have not experienced this problem with other more popular programs like Firefox, Winamp, IrfanView, EditPad Lite, etc.

Goodluck!