Interesting Reading on the Internet in Today's World

[Nokiamies]

On 10/23/2025 at 9:20 PM, EliraFriesnan said:

Strange!!!!!! I always thought Finnish goods were one of the best, I almost always buy Oras taps, for example. And we have one of the best trains. Actually, I'm very tempted to not only ignore Amazon forever, I want to depart and isolate from the internet, especially now, with no D.Draker around.

That used to be case back in day before Valtion Rautatiet/VR (Goverment Railroads) was turned into VR Group company. Since then price been going and reliability down. If you happen to live outside big zones after retirement of express trains and most of regional trades aside from those horrible DM12 you wont get anywhere, you pay intercity premium for intercity train going at express train schedule. Main selling point of intercity was that it would stop only at major cities while express train did on others and regional train did stops express train did not.

problem is not so much about trains it is more about buying trains that are not suitable for harsh Finnish climate then doing own modification trying make them not fail, in case of DM12 add casing to keep ice out, but never clean then so leaves would build up and well these pictures tells enough...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Dm12_4412_14.5.2020_Otkes.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Dm12_4414_5.6.2021_Otkes.png

that train was not even made by Finnish, it was made by Skoda. We did solid trains like DV12, DR16 or for commute traffic DM6/DM7 "lättähattu" but that was back when we had our own engineering.

[EliraFriesnan]

12 hours ago, Nokiamies said:

Skoda.

I'm not surprised as Czech Republic is well known for its mediocre (at best) goods. On the other hand, that poor quality mass products fit Amazon very well, they can buy it for cheap and then inflate the price.

 

[EliraFriesnan]

12 hours ago, Nokiamies said:

We did solid trains like DV12, DR16 or for commute traffic DM6/DM7 "lättähattu" but that was back when we had our own engineering.

You can always purchase Swiss Crocs directly, avoiding Amazon. Suitable for your weather. Ge 4/4 is still available.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_(locomotive)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_(locomotive)#/media/File:Ge_6-6_I_407_Krokodil.jpeg

 

 

[awkduck]

14 hours ago, EliraFriesnan said:

No. Borders and lines between nations are good. This globalised World is the reason for the bad we see.

You could be right. I can't say I agree or disagree. In the context I used that example, I am referring to objects of orientation. Not really intending to claim any particular imagined object as good or bad. Just that the objects are not actually real, only enforced as if they are. For example, if you break a law of man, you face consequences from man. The law is imagined, and the enforcement is an imagine correlation (although completely within causal logic) brought about by mob-rule. An example, for cross examination, is when you place your had in the fire, actual laws cause your hand to get hot and or burned. The resulting consequences are not correlated, to the the causal act, by imagination only; they are real.

It may seem like it is all irrelevant, because the consequences you pay (from the imagined dictates of mob-rule) are still real, in their affect. But for examining the differences between your life and societal life, the distinction is relevant.

So, it doesn't matter if they are good or not; they are still imagined. In order for you to act on them, as good or bad, you have to first drink the kool-aid (not meant as a criticism).

However, I'm not sure that having enforced national boarders, prevents a globalized world. We may already be in one, but allowed (and highly encouraged) to see nations. In point-of-fact, it may prove to be advantageous. The less aware the public is, the easier it is to "Wag the Dog". But, again, I am not really informed enough to really comment on it further.

[EliraFriesnan]

On 10/24/2025 at 9:25 PM, awkduck said:

However, I'm not sure that having enforced national boarders, prevents a globalised world.

Yes it does, and it worked fine until 1990. Checkpoint Charlie, ring any bells?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkpoint_Charlie

[awkduck]

18 hours ago, EliraFriesnan said:

Yes it does, and it worked fine until 1990. Checkpoint Charlie, ring any bells?

Well, it is nitpicking at this point (on may part); but it still would not prevent Global Governance. You can still run different petri dishes under different rules, and be under the same umbrella of Governance. You can even have stand-offs and wars between them. It would probably work way better, than moving everything to the exact same culture of rule (Open Global Governance). There is a/some history of aristocrats and rulers fearing their own public, more than an invasion. As terrible as it may seem, there is a sound logic to sending males to battle other males (a less powerful public, during times of native unrest [especially if wishing to implement radical change]). While this it is really unlikely to have been the case "extremely" often, you can bet it has been used as a kind of population control; acts of straight out genocide being more documented.

America has a pretty strong heritage of having running the Brits out. But, in reality, there is documentation of sizable British forces still being present there, after America won its independence; not long present, but enough to raise questions for some. While I won't say the whole thing was a sham (not nearly well enough informed to deny or support it) you can see the "liberation" of America being a pretty huge selling point, to get plenty of folks risking everything to develop an undeveloped territory. A large quantity of people failed, in the process of developing America. People seeking freedom of religion, freedom to develop experimental utopias, and other enamored by escaping the oppression of their native lands. There is a good chunk of that freedom that has since been revoked. For example, many delighted in the idea of allodial titles; a privileged mostly enjoyed by kings. As the government developed, this type of ownership ideal really kinda disappeared, and is now similar to what is available in many other countries today.  This is "JUST" an example; so please, no one run with it as some kind of conspiracy theory. But it does show how blood and bullets could be considered cheap, when your philosophy is that you own it all anyway. What is harder to own, is the beliefs of the people. But, there is a large amount of documentation showing that great progress and success has been had there, for a very very long time.

That aside, thank you for reminding me about "Checkpoint Charlie". I had fun distracting myself by digging into different aspects of it; as is available on the web, anyway.

I could really easily agree with you about "Open Globalized Governance", as opposed to just the idea of a "Functional Globalized Governance". The latter likely only to be entertained speculatively (by the public), while for former being something likely quite obvious to the inhabitants thereof. 

[EliraFriesnan]

7 hours ago, awkduck said:

thank you for reminding me about "Checkpoint Charlie"

Thank you too for the interesting conversation, for an American, your English is rather good.

 

7 hours ago, awkduck said:

there is documentation of sizable British forces still being present there, after America won its independence;

One (logical) reason could be to make an attempt to jointly prevent the French, or the Dutch, from overtaking the young, newly formed country in 3 days.  

But if the Brits knew how their sacred language will be uglified by the Americans, the deal would be off.

P.S. A good observation,
 

Edited 9 hours ago by EliraFriesnan
A good observation,

[awkduck]

47 minutes ago, EliraFriesnan said:

Thank you too for the interesting conversation, for an American, your English is rather good.

LOL, I love it (for an America).

It still needs work. When I am tired, the punctuation gets much worse.

 

49 minutes ago, EliraFriesnan said:

But if the Brits knew how their sacred language will be uglified by the Americans, the deal would be off.

You're speaking my language, now. American English enunciation is a crime to competency. The destructive evolution of defining specific words, in the U.S., is also awful; but that is a newer development.