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On 10/23/2025 at 9:20 PM, EliraFriesnan said:

Strange!!!!!! I always thought Finnish goods were one of the best, I almost always buy Oras taps, for example. And we have one of the best trains. Actually, I'm very tempted to not only ignore Amazon forever, I want to depart and isolate from the internet, especially now, with no D.Draker around.

That used to be case back in day before Valtion Rautatiet/VR (Goverment Railroads) was turned into VR Group company. Since then price been going and reliability down. If you happen to live outside big zones after retirement of express trains and most of regional trades aside from those horrible DM12 you wont get anywhere, you pay intercity premium for intercity train going at express train schedule. Main selling point of intercity was that it would stop only at major cities while express train did on others and regional train did stops express train did not.

problem is not so much about trains it is more about buying trains that are not suitable for harsh Finnish climate then doing own modification trying make them not fail, in case of DM12 add casing to keep ice out, but never clean then so leaves would build up and well these pictures tells enough...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Dm12_4412_14.5.2020_Otkes.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Dm12_4414_5.6.2021_Otkes.png

that train was not even made by Finnish, it was made by Skoda. We did solid trains like DV12, DR16 or for commute traffic DM6/DM7 "lättähattu" but that was back when we had our own engineering.


Posted
12 hours ago, Nokiamies said:

Skoda.

I'm not surprised as Czech Republic is well known for its mediocre (at best) goods. On the other hand, that poor quality mass products fit Amazon very well, they can buy it for cheap and then inflate the price.

 

Posted
12 hours ago, Nokiamies said:

We did solid trains like DV12, DR16 or for commute traffic DM6/DM7 "lättähattu" but that was back when we had our own engineering.

You can always purchase Swiss Crocs directly, avoiding Amazon. Suitable for your weather. Ge 4/4 is still available.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_(locomotive)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_(locomotive)#/media/File:Ge_6-6_I_407_Krokodil.jpeg

 

 

Posted
14 hours ago, EliraFriesnan said:

No. Borders and lines between nations are good. This globalised World is the reason for the bad we see.

You could be right. I can't say I agree or disagree. In the context I used that example, I am referring to objects of orientation. Not really intending to claim any particular imagined object as good or bad. Just that the objects are not actually real, only enforced as if they are. For example, if you break a law of man, you face consequences from man. The law is imagined, and the enforcement is an imagine correlation (although completely within causal logic) brought about by mob-rule. An example, for cross examination, is when you place your had in the fire, actual laws cause your hand to get hot and or burned. The resulting consequences are not correlated, to the the causal act, by imagination only; they are real.

It may seem like it is all irrelevant, because the consequences you pay (from the imagined dictates of mob-rule) are still real, in their affect. But for examining the differences between your life and societal life, the distinction is relevant.

So, it doesn't matter if they are good or not; they are still imagined. In order for you to act on them, as good or bad, you have to first drink the kool-aid (not meant as a criticism).

However, I'm not sure that having enforced national boarders, prevents a globalized world. We may already be in one, but allowed (and highly encouraged) to see nations. In point-of-fact, it may prove to be advantageous. The less aware the public is, the easier it is to "Wag the Dog". But, again, I am not really informed enough to really comment on it further.

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