Stubzz Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Ive got my unattended cd all working fine, everything installs perfectly. But whenever windows is loading it sits there for ages (~5mins) when it loads mup.sys.Anyone come across this before? It doesn't happen when I do an normal attended install of windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanoll Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 it's probally OOBE loading.mup.sys is already done loading if it's listed on the screen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubzz Posted April 15, 2004 Author Share Posted April 15, 2004 mup.sys was the last line that came on the screen so I assumed it was that. If it's OOBE the question stil remains why. Time to look for anything in my files then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanoll Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 look at the setupapi.logif it was during first boot, it might be in there.but when somethign is listed on the screen, that means it's been loaded. Alot of peopel think that means that it is BEING loaded, but it's not.OOBE usually loads quite abit and then unloads. That's why some peopel opted to remove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubzz Posted April 15, 2004 Author Share Posted April 15, 2004 The setup log just has 2 lines about it being installed nothing else. ill try removing OOBE, I take it theres a guide from either gosh or jdeboeck, the got one for everything else .It's really really annoying cos it just sits there for 5 minutes doing nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanoll Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 slow machine?mine sits for about 20 seconds......and I didn't remove it.just search OOBE with a time window of over 60 days, and I think there is a post by Gosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 I don't think this has anything to do with OOBE. A quick search on google with "long loading mup.sys Windows XP" brings up some links. I only quickly skimmed through a couple and it seems to be a hardware-related issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubzz Posted April 15, 2004 Author Share Posted April 15, 2004 Well OOBD has now been taken out, will try the cd tomorrow. It's late over here I've looked on google and nothing to fix it came up, most people systems where crashing/rebooting hile mine just pauses. It's not a hardware problem either as with a normal install of windows it boots in <1 min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerver Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Yup I know all about this issue as I have recently stumbled across it.Once installed XP fully unattended (all windows updates) then next time I rebooted it hung on mup.sys everytime.First my machine specsP4 3gig (hyper threading on) *NOTEradeon 9800 ProIC7 MAX-3SB live (was in machine at the time)I played with a few things and installed a few times b4 i got it too work.I first noticed the mup.sys hang after trying to install my 1st unattended disk which had all critical updates slipstreamed into it.There was a specific update, (which escapes me now) which i hunted down that people found they were having problems with, so I tried making my unatteneded disk with just the bare SP1 and rollup, which i had success with..3 things stand out and need to be trouble shooted to find the actual cause1. P4 Hyperthreading on or off2. Critical update (I think its just 1, or only when its slipstreamed)3 Hardware configuration (maybe just an unfortunate mix of hadware)Im guessing its a combination of these 3How I solved my Problem.*Note that I tried 3 other unattended XP install disks, made by 3 different ppl, all working on other computers except mine at this stage.Scenarios:1st attemptStatus: Not workingHyper threading on*unattended (all criticals updates)1st reboot after installation it hung on mup.sys each time, it would not boot into windows.2nd attemptStatus: WorkingHyper Theading on*I remade an uninstalled disk with just SP1 and the security rollup package.3rd attemptStatus: WorkingHyper Theading off*I remade an uninstalled disk with just SP1 and the security rollup package.4th attemptStatus: WorkingHyper Theading off*Original unattended disk with all updates.It looks like it could be hyperthreading, but im not certain its just this on its own as I know ppl using HT that never had this problem so im thinking its just a hardware + that 1 update with HT on in my caseI also found that I could bork my install sometimes when turning HT on and off and suddenly after a perfect working install it would hang again at mup.sysIt may be a little diff for you, but if you still get probs PM me and let me kow and maybe we can hunt down the specific problem..thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanoll Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 its starting to sound more and more like both of you have kernel errors somehow.If you have hyperthreading, so ensure that you're using the multiprocessor kernel and not hte uniprocessor. You will get the hang if you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerver Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 I did check this, but you can only check it one or twice within windows b4 it wont boot By default it updates this and when Hyperthreading is changed.I have only noticed problems from using an unattended install and its only when all the C. updates have been applied.Ill see if i can hunt down the update that was causing problems for pplIt is definately hardware specific aswell.I just want to see want what stubbz hardware is to compare, and if he is using HT on a P4I also noticed a lot of ppl getting this problem was with USB 2.0 cards aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanoll Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 well I have all of the critical Updates slipstreamed and haven't had a problem (atleast all of em upt ill yesterday or whenever that latest were released).....P4 2.4 ghz HT.160 gig hd160 gig hd200 gig hdDVD+RWCD+RWDVD-ROM3 gig RAMRADEON 9700 XTDFI Mobo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerver Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Heres one example of someone fixing the problem from an OEM prespectiveand I too tried disabling Mup.sys from the console and it too stopped at the next stage AGP440.sysBut also I must say It is ONLY with an unattended CD i get this, some other PPL i have been reading about get this problem from USB 2.0 and/or critical update"So a couple of days ago I posted asking if anyone knew of problems with Sysprep and Windows XP. I finally found the problem so I figured I would post this to help other System Engineers that might be stuck. The reason Windows would not boot past loading the initial quasi-DOS drivers was because of the HAL being wrong. At first I was stuck at Mup.sys. (seen in safe mode) Then I added some more drivers to my presys image and I got a little farther. Now it was loading agp440.sys on my laptops, but it was still not getting to Windows. Once I changed my build machine from the "Uniprocessor ACPI" HAL to the "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC" HAL everything was fine. You would think these two HALs are the same right? Well they aparently are not. Now my image works on laptops as well as desktops. This was one very tough problem to solve. Hopefully my posting will help others that have the same troubles." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubzz Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Time to try again, HT doesn't effect me because i'm on amd. My sys:o/c'd 2500XP+Abit NF7-S9800 proSo there's nothing unusual about it.I'm just using a basic XP with SP1 slipstreamed, no updates or anything. I'm gonna try recreating my i386 directory, leaving out drivers/programs etc and hope I get some where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerver Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 USB 2.0 was another issue you may want to check out.just googlewindows XP + mup.systheres heaps of entries to look through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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