Suggestions on creating a program for 98/ME/2k?

[ironman14]

Sorry I didn't see this. Is there anything you'd still like me to find.

As for FF/Seamonkey, Later versions (FF13+SM2.7+) don't work as they can't load MSVCR100.dll. I suggested blackwingcat since he has compiled VC++ for Win 95, so I figured he may be able to do it for 98/ME. But, jumper found out that Seamonkey changed the engine, so that may help fix the issue.

Update: I will find out FF later. Right now I'm busy.

Edited April 11, 2014 by ironman14

[MiKl]

A year ago in http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/157173-kext-diy-kernelex-extensions/page-5#entry1026129 I suggested some definitions that might get SM2.9.1 working, but have seen no follow-up. SM2.6.1 has been working (with caveats) for several years. SM2.0.14 is the last to function fully according to http://kernelex.sourceforge.net/wiki/SeaMonkey.

Googling "Seamonkey 2.1 changelog" I quickly got to http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1a1/changes

It appears that SM2.0.5->2.1a1 involved a migration "from Fx3.5x to Fx3.6x"

KernelEx and debuggers don't like each another, making debugging of these bookmarks, history, printing, and other modern issues very difficult.

Hi Jumper, I have tested SM 2.6.1. but it is slower than 2.0.14 and I can unfortunately not tolerate the history/bookmark issue.

Back then I also tried 2.9.1 with your suggestions but it hang after a few seconds and I noticed that bookmarks did not show up either so I did not wanted to bother you with it. Sorry that I did not replied back then.

Also sorry, for my somewhat bad English but what I would like to say is that it may be possible to change the source code for SeaMonkey 2.1. so that history/bookmarks may be working even compiled with the new gecko engine. I mean they surely did not wasted any thoughts on Win98SE back then. Or is that to unlikely ??

[ironman14]

I agree that newer GCC and Mozilla bookmark/history are some of the major priorities of KernelEx. However, just in my opinion, I also think that an important feature to add to this possible KernelEx is the capability to run C++ 2010 apps, like modern Firefox releases or later versions of LibreOffice (4.0+). blackwingcat, known for his work on Windows 2000, has also added C++ 2010 capability to Windows 95, so I'm sure if you asked, he may be able to figure it out for 98/ME. However, you can't run newer SeaMonkey/Firefox on 95, because it's kernel is missing many functions. If we got VC++ 2010 working on KernelEx, we could use the latest FF/SeaMonkey.

Hi Ironman14, a few weeks ago Jumper wrote that SeaMonkey 2.6.1 is the latest version that would work with Kex 4.5.2.

But maybe I misunderstood him.

However, do you think it would be possible if you might get in touch with the developers of FF/Seamonkey and ask what

was changed between Seamonkey 2.0.14. and 2.1 - same with FF. Maybe the bookmark/history problem is not soooo hard to fix ?

I actually didn't need to check with the developers to get this info. Here is the Seamonkey 2.1 changelog:http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/.

It includes syncing your bookmarks and history to other devices, and reworks the bookmarks system to share the Places framework used with FF.

Also, I did the same with FF. Here is the URL:

http://website-archive.mozilla.org/www.mozilla.org/firefox_releasenotes/en-US/firefox/4.0/releasenotes/

It does include an 'overhaul' of the bookmark and history code.

I hope some of these changes help.