mikerowsopht Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) Hi All, First off a big thanks to the creators of this site, it is by far the best website out there containing this kind of info and I wouldn't have been able to setup an unattended image with app install without MSFN so a big Thank You.My question is on my image the only part that is not now automated ( and I can't figure it out ) see attached image of my problemThere are 2 screenshots and I cannot automate it and don't know why, can anyone helpMy 2nd question is will my image create a differnet SID for each computer or will it create the same sid for every image ( which would cause me alot of problems )I am currently renaming the pc after image deployment but I hear that renaming a pc does not change the SID??below is my winnt.sif file which hopefully can show you experts where it is failing on the hard drive: ( removed passwords, etc.. )[Data]AutomaticUpdates="No"Autopartition=0MsDosInitiated=0UnattendedInstall="Yes"[Unattended]UnattendMode=FullUnattendedUnattendSwitch="Yes"OemPreinstall="Yes"OemSkipEula="Yes"ComputerType="Standard PC", RetailFileSystem=*WaitForReboot="No"NoWaitAfterTextMode=1NoWaitAfterGUIMode=1DriverSigningPolicy=IgnoreNonDriverSigningPolicy=IgnoreHibernation="No"[Display]Xresolution=1024Yresolution=768[SystemRestore]DisableSR=1CreateFirstRunRp=0[GuiUnattended]EncryptedAdminPassword="No"AutoLogon="Yes"AdminPassword="******"TimeZone=085OEMSkipRegional=1OemSkipWelcome=1[Shell]DefaultStartPanelOff="Yes"[Components]msmsgs=offmsnexplr=off freecell=offhearts=offminesweeper=offpinball=offsolitaire=offspider=offzonegames=off[UserData]ProductKey="**********************"ComputerName=PC999888FullName="admon"OrgName="****"[RegionalSettings]LanguageGroup=1SystemLocale="1809"UserLocale="1809"UserLocale_DefaultUser="1809"InputLocale="1809:00001809"InputLocale_DefaultUser="1809:00001809"[Networking]InstallDefaultComponents="Yes"[WindowsFirewall]Profiles=WindowsFirewall.TurnOffFirewall[WindowsFirewall.TurnOffFirewall]Mode=0[Identification]DomainAdmin=administratorDomainAdminPassword="*****"JoinDomain="domain.local"[GuiRunOnce]C:\install\start.cmd Edited July 20, 2010 by cluberti code tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 This may interest you (about SIDs):http://blogs.technet.com/b/markrussinovich/archive/2009/11/03/3291024.aspxjaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 [Data]...AutoPartition=0...You've told it NOT to automate your disk setup right there - try these instead:[Data]...AutoPartition = 1...[Unattended]...ExtendOEMPartition = 1Filesystem = ConvertNTFSRepartition = YES...This will tell setup to automate partitioning, remove any existing partitions and repartition with one large partition/volume, and make sure it's the size of the drive (or as large as an NTFS filesystem can be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikerowsopht Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) Hi jaclaz,I have read your link you provided on SIDS but don't know what to make of it to be honest. I would rather not take the chance if I can so was just wondering if my orignal winnt.sif file create's a different SID each time automatically during deployment or if it uses the same sid.********************************************************************************************Hi Cluberti,Thanks for the advice, I'll give it a try, should the code look like the below: ( edited from my orignal winnt.sif file )[Data]AutomaticUpdates="No"AutoPartition = 1 - autopartition = 1 or autopartition=1 ?? space in between = and 1, does this matter?ExtendOEMPartition = 1 - ExtendOEMPartition = 1 or ExtendOEMPartition=1 ?? space in between = and 1, does this matter?Filesystem = ConvertNTFSRepartition = YESMsDosInitiated=0UnattendedInstall="Yes"[Unattended]UnattendMode=FullUnattendedUnattendSwitch="Yes"OemPreinstall="Yes"etcetcetcThanks Again for the advice Edited July 20, 2010 by cluberti code tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 If this is a new installation of Windows, then you'll get new SIDs for every installation. If you're taking an existing install of Windows XP and making an image of it to re-deploy (it doesn't appear from your screenshots that you're doing this, but I figure I'll mention it anyway), using sysprep before capturing the image will (mostly) avoid duplicate SIDs.As to answer files, it's not really important. Here's one of mine you might find useful:[SetupData] OsLoadOptions = "/noguiboot /fastdetect"[Data] AutomaticUpdates = YES AutoPartition = 1 MsDosInitiated = 0 UnattendedInstall = Yes[Unattended] ExtendOEMPartition = 1 Unattendmode = FullUnattended UnattendSwitch = YES OemPreinstall = YES OemPnPDriversPath = drivers\audio;drivers\chipset;drivers\misc\wireless;drivers\modem;drivers\network;drivers\RAID;drivers\touchpad;drivers\video OemSkipEULA = YES TargetPath = WINDOWS Filesystem = ConvertNTFS DUDisable = YES Hibernation = NO WaitForReboot = NO Repartition = Yes[GuiUnattended] TimeZone = 035 AdminPassword = Password1 EncryptedAdminPassword = NO OemSkipWelcome = 1 OEMSkipRegional = 1 AutoLogon = YES AutoLogonCount = 1[SetupParams] UserExecute="%systemdrive%\temp\unattend.cmd"[UserData] FullName = USER OrgName = ORG ComputerName = * ProductKey = XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX[Display] BitsPerPel = 32 Xresolution = 1024 YResolution = 768[Identification] JoinDomain = DOMAIN DoOldStyleDomainJoin = YES[Networking] InstallDefaultComponents = Yes[WindowsFirewall] Profiles=WindowsFirewall.TurnOffFirewall[WindowsFirewall.TurnOffFirewall] Mode=0[NetServices] MS_Server=params.MS_PSched[NetOptionalComponents] Beacon = 0[Components] Accessopt = Off Chat = Off Deskpaper = Off Dialer = Off Fax = Off Freecell = Off Hearts = Off Media_utopia = Off Minesweeper = Off Mousepoint = Off Msmsgs = Off Msnexplr = Off Netoc = Off OEAccess = Off Pinball = Off Solitaire = Off Spider = Off WMAccess = Off zonegames = Off[PCHealth] ER_Display_UI = 0 ER_Enable_Applications = None ER_Enable_Kernel_Error = 0 ER_Enable_Reporting = 0 ER_Enable_Windows_Components = 0 ER_Force_Queue_Mode = 0 ER_Include_MSApps = 0 ER_Include_Shutdown_Errs = 0[Shell] DefaultStartPanelOff = NO DefaultThemesOff = YES[SystemFileProtection] SFCQuota = 0[SystemRestore] MaximumDataStorePercentOfDisk = 5 RestorePointLife = 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikerowsopht Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hi Cluberti,I did not take an image of a pc but rather copied the contents of our XP Enterprise CD to a new folder and then begun setting up a winnt.sif file and an unattended file using nLite so hopefully it will create a new SID each time and not duplicate them, suppose I will find out soon enough once I start deploying these images.Thanks also for your sample unattended file, I have stolen parts out of it regarding the hard disk setup and turning off components ( games etc. )Again thanks for your wisdom, much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 suppose I will find out soon enough once I start deploying these images.This is the problem, you are NOT deploying any image, you are INSTALLING from scratch (Unattended), two different things.jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikerowsopht Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) How Upsetting. I have used my image for the first time on hardware ( IBM Lenovo T61 laptop )Using my customized CD it says after about 80 seconds when it abouts to start Windows that "Setup could not find any hard disks installed on this computer, etc, etc...."Now with these laptops when we get them in the first thing we have to do is go into the bios and change the SATA drive config from AHCI to Compatabillity Mode or else the hard disk doesn't get seen.This laptop already has this option enabled.If I use the normal XP ISO disc it see's the hard drive and installs ok although I have to enter all the settings manually.If I use my customised ISO Image it says "Setup could not find any hard disks installed on this computer, etc, etc...."so the problem must lie with my winnt.sif file I presume ?Anyone know the answer or know why it would fail here whereas with the xp image it does see the hard drive ?[Data]AutomaticUpdates="No"Autopartition=0MsDosInitiated=0UnattendedInstall="Yes"[Unattended]UnattendMode=FullUnattendedUnattendSwitch="Yes"OemPreinstall="Yes"OemSkipEula="Yes"ComputerType="Standard PC", RetailFileSystem=*WaitForReboot="No"NoWaitAfterTextMode=1NoWaitAfterGUIMode=1DriverSigningPolicy=IgnoreNonDriverSigningPolicy=IgnoreHibernation="No"[Display]Xresolution=1024Yresolution=768[SystemRestore]DisableSR=1CreateFirstRunRp=0[GuiUnattended]EncryptedAdminPassword="No"AutoLogon="Yes"AdminPassword="TimeZone=085OEMSkipRegional=1OemSkipWelcome=1[Shell]DefaultStartPanelOff="Yes"[Components]msmsgs=offmsnexplr=off freecell=offhearts=offminesweeper=offpinball=offsolitaire=offspider=offzonegames=off[UserData]ProductKey="ComputerName=PC999888FullName="admon"OrgName="[RegionalSettings]LanguageGroup=1SystemLocale="1809"UserLocale="1809"UserLocale_DefaultUser="1809"InputLocale="1809:00001809"InputLocale_DefaultUser="1809:00001809"[Networking]InstallDefaultComponents="Yes"[WindowsFirewall]Profiles=WindowsFirewall.TurnOffFirewall[WindowsFirewall.TurnOffFirewall]Mode=0[Identification]DomainAdmin=administratorDomainAdminPassword="$JoinDomain=[GuiRunOnce]C:\install\start.cmd Edited July 20, 2010 by cluberti code tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Using my customized CD it says after about 80 seconds when it abouts to start Windows that Is ALL the customization you performed ONLY the WINNT.SIF you posted? Can you please whenever posting code to enclose it in [ code ] [/ code ] tags (if it's just a snippet) or use [ codebox ] [/ codebox ] ones (if it's more than a few lines), it greatly adds to the readability of a thread.Examples:Hi I'm inside CODE tagsHi, I'm inside CODEBOX tags and I have a scrolling bar on the right................................................Nothing else to see, I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikerowsopht Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hi Jaclaz,I will use the from now on as I didn't know, thanks.Bascailly my winnt.sif file is my entire file and it is the only unattended windows file I have in my i386 folder.I do have another batchh file which launches the installation of programs but has nothing to do with the unattended file.I was thinking of changing my winnt.sif file from:[Data]AutomaticUpdates="No"Autopartition=0MsDosInitiated=0UnattendedInstall="Yes"UnattendMode=FullUnattendedto the below as per Cluberti suggestion although this was for a different problem:[Data]AutomaticUpdates="No"AutoPartition = 1 - Filesystem = ConvertNTFSRepartition = YESMsDosInitiated=0UnattendedInstall="Yes"although I don't know if this will solve my problem or not, but sure I will give it a go unless you have further advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I did not take an image of a pc but rather copied the contents of our XP Enterprise CD to a new folder and then begun setting up a winnt.sif file and an unattended file using nLite...There's only one problem with your post - nLite is expressly forbidden for use for anything other than personal modification of your personal XP source (read the EULA sometime). I strongly suggest you cease and desist use of nLite in your corporation, and stick to just modification of winnt.sif. There's no reason to use nLite for this anyway.As to the problems with setup, I'm guessing the original XP CD had the IBM disk controller drivers integrated into it, and your customized CD does not. It would make sense to integrate these drivers if possible anyway, that way you wouldn't have to use the older IDE compatibility mode, and use the preferred AHCI. It's even discussed here already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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