dusty2all Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 I made my first nLite CD for a new computer I am building - XP SP3 optimized for pro audio. The install seemed pretty unremarkable until it rebooted my computer after it was complete. Now it goes round and round. The usual Microsoft Windows XP big logo with the copyright notice, then it goes to a light blue screen with the following message: Setup is being restarted. After a few seconds it reboots. It has been doing this for the last couple hours. I thought, no big deal, just insert my regular XP install disk and use recovery console. Big problem. The recovery console is requiring a password. I never provided one when I built the nLite install. I even went to the .ini files on the CD I created and that confirmed that I never gave a password. I don't have one on my other computer either. So...is there some sort of default password that nLite uses when no password is typed in when you choose your nLite options? I can't get into recovery console, so I can't fix the boot or do anything else to clean up this install. I am thinking there has to be some kind of simple workaround for this. Any help would be much appreciated. I sure don't want to go back to a standard XP install after I spent so much time and effort setting up an nLite version. Please advise! Thanks.
Ponch Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 -have you tried entering no password ?-if you don't select '"unattended" and the disc you start with is unattended, that part is not overwritten and I'm not sure the password appears in the ini files (I might be wrong here).Anyway you have a major problem and it would be a good idea to start again.
johnhc Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 dusty2all, first, please attach (not paste) your Last Session.ini. Make sure to always start with a fresh copy of your CD files/folders, do all your work in one nLite session and integrate only one SP. Please report when you have a solution, so others can benefit. In at least some of these cases, you can get into Safe Mode by pressing F8. Please try that and if you can, go to My Computer Properties and disable Automatically Restart and reboot. When you get your BSOD, please post the code - guess 07B. Enjoy, John.
dusty2all Posted June 17, 2009 Author Posted June 17, 2009 Hello! Thanks for the prompt response. -have you tried entering no password ?Yes, I did. That is how it works with my other computer. -if you don't select '"unattended" and the disc you start with is unattended, that part is not overwritten and I'm not sure the password appears in the ini files (I might be wrong here).I am not sure what I selected. Anyway you have a major problem and it would be a good idea to start again.Fortunately, it wouldn't be a big deal if I have to do that.
dusty2all Posted June 17, 2009 Author Posted June 17, 2009 dusty2all, first, please attach (not paste) your Last Session.ini. Make sure to always start with a fresh copy of your CD files/folders, do all your work in one nLite session and integrate only one SP. Please report when you have a solution, so others can benefit.The XP disk I started with was XP SP2 Home. All of the work was done in one session. I have attached the Last Session.ini. In at least some of these cases, you can get into Safe Mode by pressing F8. Please try that and if you can, go to My Computer Properties and disable Automatically Restart and reboot. When you get your BSOD, please post the code - guess 07B. Enjoy, John.It is doing something different now that I started the new computer this morning. There is the logo page and then the light blue screen with this message at the top: setup is being restarted... That is the same as it was last night. Now there is a third step that happens sometimes but not all the time. That is a blank light blue screen, then a box with an error message appears. It goes by so fast that all I can read is the first word or two. Something about Insufficient resources. I mention this because I started to get into Safe Mode, where I would get the usual page of all the files that were loading, then it went to that light blue screen and that same error message. I wish I could get the code on the message but it doesn't appear that there is a code on it, just two lines of text. Now I just watched it again, and there is only one line of text. The next time there is no box with an error message - it just reboots. Really strange. Any idea what is going on here?LAST_SESSION.INI
johnhc Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 dusty2all, I see two problems right now. You cannot put .NET into the hot fix section. It does not integrate, so remove all .NET stuff. You have IE7 updates placed before you install IE7 and this is going to be a real problem. Perhaps you should run an experiment by removing everything from the hot fix section and see it you can get a good install. You might consider an Update Pack for all post SP3 updates. See the RyanVM forum for options. Please let us know what is happening. Enjoy, John.
dusty2all Posted June 17, 2009 Author Posted June 17, 2009 dusty2all, I see two problems right now. You cannot put .NET into the hot fix section. It does not integrate, so remove all .NET stuff. You have IE7 updates placed before you install IE7 and this is going to be a real problem. Perhaps you should run an experiment by removing everything from the hot fix section and see it you can get a good install. Thank you for a most informative response. I want to make sure I know how to proceed. Am I working with my existing nLite CD? In that case I would copy all of the files that are on that CD to my hard drive. Then I would edit and burn a new CD, reformat the partition and reinstall. Is that correct? Or am I starting over? If I am using the existing CD, I am a little unclear where the hotfixes are. I am having a hard time finding them. The same goes for the .NET stuff. Then...how do I move the IE7 updates so they install after IE7 itself does? Or should I just blow away the IE 7 updates? Sorry for all the questions. I haven't quite figured out how nLite does what it does yet. You might consider an Update Pack for all post SP3 updates. See the RyanVM forum for options. Please let us know what is happening. Enjoy, John.I think I would have the option of adding those only if I start over. If that is not the case and I can add it to the existing nLite install, how do I go about that? In the meantime, I will go over to the RyanVM forum and look around. That is where I got SP3 to begin with. I greatly appreciate your help.
johnhc Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 dusty2all, you are welcome. Please reread my first reply. Always start with a fresh copy of your original CD files/folders, etc. As Ponch said, you will need to start over. I suggest you consider a virtual system (VMware Server, VirtualPC, VirtualBox - all free). This will allow you to test without ever creating a CD (no more coasters) and allow much quicker turnaround. I can do an install of my XP x64 system in less than 15 minutes on my VM. Enjoy, John.
dusty2all Posted June 17, 2009 Author Posted June 17, 2009 (snip) Please reread my first reply. Always start with a fresh copy of your original CD files/folders, etc. As Ponch said, you will need to start over.I guess I was being irrationally hopeful but it seemed entirely feasible to me that limited tweaking of an existing file could be possible. Due to some partitioning problems I had yesterday, I lost all of the files that I used to build the first nLite install. It took me a full day to put it together the first time and I wanted to make sure that was absolutely necessary before I put myself through that entire process again. I suggest you consider a virtual system (VMware Server, VirtualPC, VirtualBox - all free). This will allow you to test without ever creating a CD (no more coasters) and allow much quicker turnaround. I can do an install of my XP x64 system in less than 15 minutes on my VM. Enjoy, John.CDs are cheap. Fortunately. I don't think I can handle another learning curve at the moment and virtual systems are something I have never experimented with. At any rate, my opinion has not changed that nLite is one remarkable system tool. I read as much as I could find on it before I built that nLite install but apparently I had not read quite enough. Lesson learned. What did we ever do without forums like this one? Thanks again for your patience and your information.
johnhc Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 dusty2all, if the truth is really known, there are some additional changes that can be made to an existing nLited source folder. Even nLite's web site points some out but in general, I am aware of no one outside of nuhi (author/owner) who knows where all the bodies are hidden. In your case, needing to rearrange and remove hot fixes (at a minimum) when they are integrated into the source and the original source is deleted will only lead to far worse grief than you already have. The (snip) in your reply - sorry about, my admonition was meant in a nice and kind way. Enjoy, John
dusty2all Posted June 17, 2009 Author Posted June 17, 2009 dusty2all, if the truth is really known, there are some additional changes that can be made to an existing nLited source folder. Even nLite's web site points some out but in general, I am aware of no one outside of nuhi (author/owner) who knows where all the bodies are hidden.I laughed when I read that. Thanks for the amusement! I am in the middle of downloading service packs and assorted other odds and ends. Hopefully I won't have to bother you again when I try this a second time. In your case, needing to rearrange and remove hot fixes (at a minimum) when they are integrated into the source and the original source is deleted will only lead to far worse grief than you already have. The (snip) in your reply - sorry about, my admonition was meant in a nice and kind way. Enjoy, JohnJohn, you have been more than kind, and I was pleasantly surprised that you took the time to respond to my last message. BTW, when are you going to fill out your profile? I don't even know what country you are in.
johnhc Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 When I figure out where I am, I will fill out my profile. Enjoy, John.
dusty2all Posted June 19, 2009 Author Posted June 19, 2009 When I figure out where I am, I will fill out my profile. Enjoy, John.LOL! I might consider stopping by this forum on occasion just to see if you have found yourself! OK. I put together a new improved nLite install disk and it actually did what it was supposed to. The password problem went away as well. Other weirdness is going on, however. This might be a question for one of the Microsoft forums but perhaps someone here has had the same thing happen. I have two hard drives, a 320 and a 500 GB. The one I want to install XP on is the 320, but both times I have tried to install from an nLite CD, XP puts the C drive on the 500 GB, with the message that unless there is a formatted partition on that drive, it will not install everything else on the 320. So apparently it is booting from the 500 GB drive - C - in order to start the operating system on the 320 GB drive - D. I can't figure this out. I want this entire operating system on the C drive. Do I have to disconnect my 500 GB drive to convince XP to make that happen? Has anyone else here had this same problem? Please advise. Thanks.
johnhc Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 dusty2all, I have not installed on a system with more than one HDD. I assume when Setup starts, it will show you a list of all partitions on all HDDs. You select the one you want to install to and partition/format as you wish. I have three partitions on my HDD (under VMware Server), and I get a dialog asking me where I want to install. Are you not getting asked about both drives? If you select the 320 and select to format it, does it give an error? Are there multiple partitions on the 320? Has it been used before? Enjoy, John.
Ponch Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 unless there is a formatted partition on that drive, it will not install everything else on the 320.You probably need to create a primary partition on that drive then reboot so it takes the C letter or maybe swap your SATA cables so that the 320Gig comes first.
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