Sars! Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 (edited) Hey there,I feel like smashing my computer... xDSo, well, not difficult. I get a BSoD! This is teh error message (I get others too, but this one is most frequent):0x7F (0x0D, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00)I'm really out of ideas. Here's what I tried already:-Upgraded windows XP to windows Vista Ultimate-Put this inside my case:-Reinstall graphic drivers, audio drivers, directx-Unscrew my processor and graphic card (took out everything and put everything back in)-Virus-scansNow, I don't get this BSoD while playing games (sometimes I do, but mostly my games work perfect) and I don't get it while in Safe Mode.Here's my system specs:P5GDC Deluxe Asus (MoBo)Intel P4 HT540 3.2 GhzGeforce 7900 GT Sonic 512 mb (palit)2 x 1GB ramm (I don't know, but I think it's corsair)200 gb hard disk S-ATA460 Watt tagan powersupplyX-FI extremegamer SoundcardThere's a bootlog as attachment.I hope anyone could help Grtz,Sars!EDIT:And this is just strange:ntbtlog.rar Edited June 26, 2007 by Sars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizban2 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 follow the instructions herehttp://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=90244create a full memory dump and let us know when it is done, we can find out what the issue is from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroshift Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Regarding your first issue, I'd say it's due to bad RAM. Have you tried to run a memtest86 on it? As for the second issue, you see 2 processors because it is running in hyperthreading (1 physical processor and a "virtual" one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Well, I think perhaps a dump is in order here. The 0x0D parameter in the 0x7F bugcheck means that the OS hit an exception not covered by some other exception handler, which means that it was likely a protection fault that pertains to access violations for applications or drivers that caused the issue. While it's still possible that it's hardware, the fact that it was a 0x0D means it's at least more likely to be poorly written driver software than an actual hardware fault. What's running on that box, btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sars! Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 (edited) I'm pretty sure it's not the memory because I just put new in it. Before it had 2 x 512 twinmos, and it gave the same bsod. I also thought it was the memory, that's why I bought new I'll do the dump thing though.Thanx for the replys already,Sars!EDIT:Could it be possible that my computer already automaticaly created a dump? Because when I get the BSoD, in the bottom, a loading thing comes, with 'writing memory dump' or something like that.Ow, I can't put it as an attachment because its over 200 MB I think I'll just make a new one, 'cus that's strange, isn't it?Grtz,Sars!EDIT:Ok, I didn't realize I needed to open the MEMORY.dmp with the debugging tools xDAnyways, this is what I got:Microsoft ® Windows Debugger Version 6.7.0005.0Copyright © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.Loading Dump File [C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP]Kernel Summary Dump File: Only kernel address space is availableSymbol search path is: SRV*c:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;c:\websymbolsExecutable search path is: Windows Vista Kernel Version 6000 MP (2 procs) Free x86 compatibleProduct: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTSBuilt by: 6000.16386.x86fre.vista_rtm.061101-2205Kernel base = 0x81c00000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0x81d08ab0Debug session time: Wed Jun 27 09:32:03.156 2007 (GMT+2)System Uptime: 0 days 0:05:57.778Loading Kernel Symbols.....................................................................................................................................................................................Loading User SymbolsLoading unloaded module list.........******************************************************************************** ** Bugcheck Analysis ** ********************************************************************************Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.BugCheck 7F, {d, 0, 0, 0}Probably caused by : ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt!KiSystemFatalException+f )Followup: MachineOwner---------And this is a bit completer one:UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP (7f)This means a trap occurred in kernel mode, and it's a trap of a kindthat the kernel isn't allowed to have/catch (bound trap) or thatis always instant death (double fault). The first number in thebugcheck params is the number of the trap (8 = double fault, etc)Consult an Intel x86 family manual to learn more about what thesetraps are. Here is a *portion* of those codes:If kv shows a taskGate use .tss on the part before the colon, then kv.Else if kv shows a trapframe use .trap on that valueElse .trap on the appropriate frame will show where the trap was taken (on x86, this will be the ebp that goes with the procedure KiTrap)Endifkb will then show the corrected stack.Arguments:Arg1: 0000000d, EXCEPTION_GP_FAULTArg2: 00000000Arg3: 00000000Arg4: 00000000Debugging Details:------------------BUGCHECK_STR: 0x7f_dDEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VISTA_DRIVER_FAULTPROCESS_NAME: IdleCURRENT_IRQL: 8LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 81c6b720 to 81c49c47STACK_TEXT: 81ce9aec 81c6b720 badb0d00 84d1f00c 8551ce00 nt!KiSystemFatalException+0xf81ce9b60 81c6bc97 00000020 00000010 81c86c1a nt!EtwpGetPerfCounter+0x281ce9b90 81c6bf2a 00000020 81ce9bb8 81ce9bd8 nt!EtwpReserveTraceBuffer+0xce81ce9be4 81c731e3 81ce9c10 00000000 00000002 nt!EtwpLogKernelEvent+0x1b181ce9c30 81c74f2b 00000f43 20004000 00000008 nt!EtwTraceTimedEvent+0xa581ce9c5c 81c370e5 8268ce30 00009200 4cdbf4ee nt!PerfInfoLogInterrupt+0x4381ce9c94 81c36fc9 81ce9c02 00000092 81ce9d50 nt!KiChainedDispatch2ndLvl+0xd981ce9c94 8b5fc41e 81ce9c02 00000092 81ce9d50 nt!KiChainedDispatch+0x2981ce9d14 8b5fd1af 81cee610 8679b5a4 81c9f3a3 intelppm!C1Halt+0x481ce9d20 81c9f3a3 84ca32d8 81cefac0 81cec700 intelppm!C1Idle+0x2581ce9d50 81c37a82 00000000 0000000e 00000000 nt!PopIdleDefaultHandler+0x23981ce9d54 00000000 0000000e 00000000 00000000 nt!KiIdleLoop+0xaSTACK_COMMAND: kbFOLLOWUP_IP: nt!KiSystemFatalException+f81c49c47 c3 retSYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 0SYMBOL_NAME: nt!KiSystemFatalException+fFOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwnerMODULE_NAME: ntIMAGE_NAME: ntkrnlmp.exeDEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 4549ad6cFAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0x7f_d_nt!KiSystemFatalException+fBUCKET_ID: 0x7f_d_nt!KiSystemFatalException+fFollowup: MachineOwner---------And this is what Bill says:NOTE: The Ntkrnlmp.exe file is used only on computers with multiple processors.Seems I was right with the two processors showing up after all?Grtz,Sars! Edited June 27, 2007 by Sars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sars! Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 (edited) Little bump (cause I editted my previous post 3 times, and didn't have a reply since original message)Grtz,Sars!EDIT:Disabled HyperThreading, did nothing. Ow, and I guess it's normal that there aren't anymore BSoD's, but the computer just restarts?EDIT:wooow, I'm 50 minutes (not safemode) on my comp now and it didn't give a bsod. Maybe it's fixed. Not sure yet though Edited June 27, 2007 by Sars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Well, maybe.You crashed after doing an EtwpGetPerfCounter from the kernel (nt!), and the next call should/would have been hal!HalGetInterruptTargetInformation - this would have been a call to the processor through the driver it uses - as such, it is possible that it's a problem with the processor hardware, but it's more likely a problem with the intelppm driver from the Intel Chipset software. I can only see what you show in the dump and what I know to be happening with the perf counters in that stack from experience, but that'd be my educated guess from your basic output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sars! Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 (edited) Yeh, but I don't really think that 'drivers' exist for a processor xDAnd if you mean these:http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/inf/I already tried 'em Grtz,Sars!ps: It went smooth in normal mode yesterday for about an hour, then it freezed. After reboot, it gave bsod's again.EDIT:This is what CPU says (look to the right):I would like to downclock my cpu, but HOW?Grtz,Sars! Edited June 28, 2007 by Sars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 That's pretty warm for even an Intel CPU - perhaps you can get into the BIOS and reduce the clock speed, but you'd have to check the motherboard manual, as they're all different about that sort of thing.If you leave the system off for a few hours and turn it back on, does it run without crashing for awhile, and does the temp keep going up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sars! Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Well, it's pretty strange.I changed the position of my fans and now the temp gets maxed at 65 °C. I'm not sure though, but I get a lot of different BSoD's now too.I hope anyone can still help, though, I think my computer is at his end.Grtz,Sars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJARRRPCGP Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 (edited) Regarding your first issue, I'd say it's due to bad RAM. Have you tried to run a memtest86 on it? As for the second issue, you see 2 processors because it is running in hyperthreading (1 physical processor and a "virtual" one).May be a bad processor or the Vcore isn't set properly. The STOP: 0x0000007F UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP BSOD has been documented by a motherboard manufacturer's web site to be caused by Vcore issues. You may be required to flash the BIOS for the problem to be solved. Edited June 28, 2007 by RJARRRPCGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sars! Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share Posted June 29, 2007 BUMP: still having the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 What more do you want? It's either intelppm.sys, or a bum processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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