sorry but you've seem to have missed the point , I know the registry key, that's why i called it 'menushowdelay' . you can change this to something other than 0 till your blue in the face, but as i said, after every reboot, or access of the nvidia driver control pannel, or return from standby, the nview manager puts it back to 0 again so it's all screwed up. I can't disable nview i need the functions for my multimonitor settup. for some reason , meerly executing a reg patch doesn't always seem to fix the problem, the non 0 value only always seems to fix the problem if i've set it using tweakUI, despite tweakui only changing the same key (checked with a reg monitor)