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I think my dvd is fine. I downloaded it from the MSDNAA. I think that the problem is well known for a year or so. There are more people having this weird monit there: http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPo...9&SiteID=17 . The conclusion of the conversation is that they recommend using vlite ;-)
They were using RC1 and I have the same thing on the final version (6.0.6000).
I have Lenovo Thinkpad Z60m with the following configuration:
P M 740(1.73GHz), 1024MB RAM, 100GB 7200rpm HD, 15.4in 1280x800 LCD, 64MB ATI Radeon X300, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11bg wireless, Bluetooth/Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, IEEE 1394, Fingerprint reader, 6c Li-Ion batt
Nonono, 'they' do not recommend using vlite...it's simply one external guy with 15 posts that says "i aint no tech genious so i dont really know what it does but i do know it makes it work"..and he is the only one. (not very informative or insightful I might add)
And no confirmation of this from others in any form or shape.
..and thats all.
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Amazing, truly amazing...but then again, this is the place to expect this kind of things
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Humm, 350MB...not vLite'd though...
It would be a nice thing to tell us how you managed this or where you got the information from to do this?
Allow me to remind you:
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?s=&...st&p=616218
I guess I should use ASCII as well then to express my thoughts to you:
57 68 79 3F 4E 6F 74 67 65 74 74 69 6E 67 65 6E 6F 75 67 68 66 72 6F 6D 62 72 6F 77 6E 6E 6F 73 69 6E 67 4E 75 68 69 3F
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Humm, 350MB...not vLite'd though...
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Ofcourse it's possible!
If you have the DVD you have the files needed.
Simply extract the specific files from your source and drop them where they should be.
Better yet, don't remove language files with that vlite thingie and then edit the image yourself and remove only the languagefiles you don't need.
Everything you do with vlite you can do yourself, and it's all reversible...
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@Clint, morning chap. Yeah you amaze me too. Changing the installation name through Hex edit seems more like geeking, then tweaking. Maybe I would be interested in this, when all the tweaking was done (is it ever).
Well, to be honest it was more of a hint to Nuhi..he do put Vlite when you are using his app
It sure is a geeky thing...mind you I said I put it there for you to see...ok?
Oh, and talking about geeky...using ASCII Hex to state "Stupid!!!" ..like you did...aint that the geekiest of all...haha!
:lol: ...you ppl here.
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here is another proof
with Vista x64, 1,2GB Ram
one with removed Superfetch and Readyboost other one Clean Vista
i know its easier to just point to a MS site and say: read and learn
no need to investigate ourself, just talkin and talkin bul*****
so please, just ignore Clints posts since he didnt know anything, just like to talk and nerv other ppls
but the proof is here
Man, you fanboys!
your snapshots are worth nothing...
Why are you trying to protect BS, brownnosing soemone who clearly is wrong won't get you anywhere...and he don't care either.
Now, I say this to both you and Nuhi:
If you do screenshots, take them DIRECTLY after boot!!
Why do you wait until 3min before you do it..? huh?
Nuhi did at least try to make them look alike, you are totally off though....if you compare the statusbar between thoose two you clearly see what you have been doing.
bah..
And I still wanna see that removing Readyboost alone will save 100MB in memoryusage...
here is another proofwith Vista x64, 1,2GB Ram
one with removed Superfetch and Readyboost other one Clean Vista
i know its easier to just point to a MS site and say: read and learn
no need to investigate ourself, just talkin and talkin bul*****
so please, just ignore Clints posts since he didnt know anything, just like to talk and nerv other ppls
but the proof is here
are you serious?
You think posting a couple of dodgy snapshots is a more valid argument than referring to Microsofts own?...jeesas!
...for some reason the ppl here with knowledge has choosen not to even bother to dig into this dispute...now why is that?
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@Clint thanks for the laughs, what is next? How to use an HexEditor? This is not a bone this is 73 74 75 70 69 64 21 21 21
I thought it was quite nice of me to tell you that one...oh well....you still amaze me.
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Are you serious? You are bragging that you know how to use imagex while dismissing the proof for what you spent my hours with your insults.
I don't see any proof, just two screenshots from two different occasions.
Your word is somewhat biased here, so don't expect anyone to just buy that with a couple of dodgy screenies.
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@Clint
Why are you acting as the cocky know it all?
You keep pointing out how good you are, but when people ask for guidance, then you reply with "this is not the place". Why don't you really help in what we are trying to do instead of proving you are "superiour". We are all working in one way or the other towards the same goal and in this nuhi tries to provide a tool to assist us. How his methods are, I do not care as along as the result is up to par. For me this is the case and he can indeed be off sometimes. But he does not put neon-lights on his front page stating vLite will gaining 500% performance boost and memory usage will be 2 times less. Nobody's perfect, lets just try not to prove we are right, but try to have an healthy discussion on slimming down Windows Vista.
I can throw you a bone for now:
If you want to brand your install, a little word after the Vista version so that everyone knows you have done it: (look at mouse pointer)
How do do this:
Open install.wim with an Hexeditor
Start from the bottom of the file and scroll upwards until you see this area: (I have entered (.C.l.i.n.t.) there, just for show)
...replace and save
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Clint, what I said about caching is true, done the tests twice, what do you want screenshots?
"it holds quite a few keycomponents for both your setup and later components install."
Means that it has few key runtime files there, which XP has too, check it before you say anything.
And later means when you select Add Features from Control panel in Vista. Not during install.
Why are you attacking me, it's your ignorance not mine.
It's only matter of time until someone else does these tests properly and confirms it.
Remember I didn't say that readyboost DRIVER takes 100MB but that on full vista cache is 100MB smaller with Windows fully booted and ReadyBoost removed. Why would I say something like that out of the blue, I saw and confirmed it.
Take a deep breath, reread and then reply, these insults are very childish and stop "describing" me.
blabla bla bla blabla...you are still shooting air and protecting your hurted bloated ego.
Means that it has few key runtime files there, which XP has too, check it before you say anything.
And later means when you select Add Features from Control panel in Vista. Not during install.
??? ..so you are confirming my statement...or what??
There is no substance in what you are saying, you make no sense at all...
..take it like a man.
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@Clint
Why are you acting as the cocky know it all?
You keep pointing out how good you are, but when people ask for guidance, then you reply with "this is not the place". Why don't you really help in what we are trying to do instead of proving you are "superiour". We are all working in one way or the other towards the same goal and in this nuhi tries to provide a tool to assist us. How his methods are, I do not care as along as the result is up to par. For me this is the case and he can indeed be off sometimes. But he does not put neon-lights on his front page stating vLite will gaining 500% performance boost and memory usage will be 2 times less. Nobody's perfect, lets just try not to prove we are right, but try to have an healthy discussion on slimming down Windows Vista.
Allow me to quote from his site:
Looked at some stats and it turns out that when a 1GB machine is used with the Vista Lite, vLite can save you up to a 600MB ! of free space in the RAM memory compared to a full version. I find that amazing, and the general usage is much faster even on my Core 2 Duo. Not to mention the 5GB smaller install
But you are right, this is getting out of hand..and I'm tired of it.
..it all started quite some time ago when he called me a "sick old bastard" when I was asking fellow members for an old version of nLite..and deleted their posts with links...so he did actually set the level.
I'm working towards finalization of my build, still working on an a replacement firewall.
I will drop some notes on Maxxpsofts forum when I'm done.
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Clint, you have outdone yourself. Also when I see that you are talking around the forum that Vista installs components during install you make me warm inside.
HAHA, you are only trying to make others to forget your stupid comments about readyboost and memoryusage with jumping on me with cheap shots...wich ofcourse also is totally wrong.
I have posted one comment about this, not talked around the forum...and it was when mentioning why you should not remove winsxs folder completely.
And there are actually a couple of things that gets "installed"...or "set"...that ARE depending on componentpackages/manifests that are residing/linked there...so I am completely accurate there as well.
link to my post:
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?s=&...st&p=615682
@ClintNice, would really like to know how this was established and if this was with vLite or womething else. DId you just remove the winsxs folder or waht?
No, I did not use vLite..it's all manual work.
With Vistas imagebased setup it's really childsplay to modify the source, and the setuproutine is much easier on dependencies as well.
winsxs folder cannot be removed entirely, it holds quite a few keycomponents for both your setup and later components install.
Stop lying.
Again it's so obvious that your perception of reality is really off, you ARE NOT the "progressleader" nor the knowleadgeable mentor you are pretending to be.
You my friend are nothing but a "trial and error" dude that don't have a clue what you are talking about, simple as that.
I'm tired of you pretending, show me some numbers/facts or stop babbling. I have given you undoubtable facts and others agree, but you reply with comments like "make me warm inside"..and so on..where is the FACTS to prove your points?)
Show me facts that Readyboost takes 100MB and Prefetch takes 300MB in memoryusage alone!!!!!!!
Until you do, please keep the lid on....
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OK fellas. Does that mean that I still cannot run vista on my 512 laptop?
Absolutely, just go through the Services and do some tuning...you will be fine.
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Clint, I see I'm talking in vain here, until you try it we have no reason to talk.
Of course if you have all your programs and drivers installed that Vista will drain whole GB and you'll never see the difference.
I'm talking here about OS core loading and how much RAM it takes on clean...isolation, rings any bells.
Also disabling and removing it isn't the same.
Well, I've tried everything you have..and more...and I can guarantee that I have isolated whatever issue more than you.
I have been there, with much smaller system load than you will ever get..again isolation.
It's within it's nature that I will develop things faster than you, I do not need to consider all those buttonclickers and what they might do or wanna install.
As a matter of fact, I see your problem quite clearly, you have all these ppl around you (read nLite/vLite fanboys) that doesn't have a clue on what is going on and applaude just about everything.
This is ofcourse a fallpit, it's easy to start belive you have invented the wheel again...or anything in that magnitude.
As for this here argument about Readyboost and memoryusage, you are simply wrong..!!
Take it as a man, I'm sure your follower won't hold it against you
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Well, at least you are down to 9mb from insane 100mb reports.
I guess we can leave the Readyboost discussion then.
Now this
Vista's memorymanagement work in a different way than in XP.
It will pull 30-33% of available memory until a certain point.
Try install in VMware first with 512MB ram and note the memory used.
Change to 1GB and install the same image and note the memory used.
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If I do just what Clint sayd, then I doubt nuhi looks at Task Manager numbers. I check disabling these services in this way (going to install without RB/SF, after this). ReadyBoost gave 10MB back and SuperFetch around 30MB. I checked this a 2nd time to confirm and check paging file as well. Numbers remained the same, but paging file also is 30MB less usage and I also stop Software Licensing (only used for me for RB).
I'm sure you will find that removing Readyboost will lower usage with 100mb...hehe!
And ofcourse done with just looking at Task Manager (like Nuhi) in a very scientific way..hrm!...so why stop at adding Software Licensing service to the mix?
...add a few more.
Key words for development: (and analyzing)
Static environment
Isolation
Verification
...Knowledge
Good Luck!
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Clint,
redid the tests and by removing Superfetch and Readyboost it saves:
~350MB of RAM on full Vista! You do it if you don't believe it.
(difference taken on the second restart because on the first one setup fills the RAM during profile creation)
ReadyBoost - ~100MB
SuperFetch - ~250MB
These are on 1GB virtual machine, first was removed RB, took stats, then SF, it can differ with different drivers and memory amount.
In conclusion I'm not explaining myself any more to these provocations.
I'm sorry but that is not true, you can say what you want....Readyboost doesn't pull 100mb when it is not even activated..or even has anything to work against.(a flashdisk or similar)
Anyone with a minimal skill and computerknowledge can read up on that, and if you do a bit more complex analyzis of the systempull than simply booting in VMware and looking at what Task Manager says...(that is not very descriptive) you will soon understand that it is impossible.
I know you are a "trial and error" guy, but this time you are out on the rim my friend.
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@Clint
Nice, would really like to know how this was established and if this was with vLite or womething else. DId you just remove the winsxs folder or waht?
No, I did not use vLite..it's all manual work.
With Vistas imagebased setup it's really childsplay to modify the source, and the setuproutine is much easier on dependencies as well.
winsxs folder cannot be removed entirely, it holds quite a few keycomponents for both your setup and later components install.
Can you share how the manual work was done? What steps you took. Thanks.
Not here, sorry.
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@Clint
Nice, would really like to know how this was established and if this was with vLite or womething else. DId you just remove the winsxs folder or waht?
No, I did not use vLite..it's all manual work.
With Vistas imagebased setup it's really childsplay to modify the source, and the setuproutine is much easier on dependencies as well.
winsxs folder cannot be removed entirely, it holds quite a few keycomponents for both your setup and later components install.
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You don't have a clue, I do tests, not just talking like you do.
I guess I will have to direct you to Microsoft then...
ReadyBoost:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/comm...hancements.mspx (scroll down)
..jeesas..
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Windows consists of multiple part. I am now at 2.7GB (2.51GB Windows, Users 125MB, Program Files 50MB, Boot 13MB, Program Data 3MB) excluding pagefile. If I remove all remaining components that I now have installed, vLite tells me I would gain 68MB on my Home Basic installation.
I do not think installing Vista on a 2GB drive will be possible at least not in the near future, unless the winsxs can be reduced conssiderably (this takes up 1GB).
It has already been done:
also:
Oh, ISO is 350mb big...
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:lol: 
thanks for the laughs, what is next? How to use an HexEditor? This is not a bone this is 73 74 75 70 69 64 21 21 21
vlite problems
in vLite
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C'mon man...stop throwing 'lol's in people faces when you obviously don't know crap yourself.
Your input until now on this board haven't exactly been the most knowledgeable ones I've seen, so go easy on others will ya.