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With all removed Vista takes "only" around 300MB ram so yes 512 is enough to run it smoothly. But when you add your drivers and install other programs it will leave you without free memory and every started program will go slower than it would go with 1GB ram for example.
XP takes 5-10 times less memory, I would recommend it on 512MB machine.
Not really.
Vista's memorymanagement work in a different way than in XP.
It will pull 30-33% of available memory until a certain point.
If you have only 512mb in the machine and some other gadgets running it will be happy to pull only 190-200mb for the core alone and perhaps 30-40mb for AV and such.
This is how MS make "their new OS" more snappy than XP..(it's still the same s*** except memory and prefetch management).
Fact.
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Thanks for the answer, good to know I'm not alone with that error.
I will investigate further.
Thanks!
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I'm trying to get a grip on how to edit the boot.wim properly.
I use these commands:
imagex /mountrw C:\Vista\sources\boot.wim 2 C:\Mount.PE
imagex /unmount /commit C:\Mount.PE
ImageX /export /check /compress maximum C:\Vista\sources\boot.wim 2 C:\newboot.wim
I get an extracted image #2 message..
..but after renaming the wim and replace the original boot.wim I get this error when trying to install:
Is it a different approach to edit this image?
thanks!
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Now..... Please keep this thread clean.
Do not discuss vLite here.
Anyways, my problems were related to the XML. vLite does not insert xml, so the testing & faults were mine.
Well, I started the thread...and I never discussed vLite...(only certain ppl's behaviour perhaps)
My last post was about how to remove components properly, and that has nothing to do with vLite....only Microsoft...and us here
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with XP was just 7-800 inf's or .in_ simple once you look at them
just never cared to go much farther there myself cause not into that remove junk
Very true, but Vista is actually much much easier to modify.
..childsplay really, you can mount the Vistas registry in XP or whatever and then do your changes...unload it and then commit.
Too easy
As for components you simply edit a .xml file that gets parsed...get rid/edit Manifests and related componentpackages and files...and your done!
...but who am I to come here and pretend I know this...when we have all these clever nlite/vlite buttonclickers that seems to know sooooo much more.
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<ComplianceCheck>
Never - Specifies that user interface is never displayed, even for serious errors. An error is logged, and installation terminates.
So that is definitely not the answer now is it
Clint, things will come around, everyone is learning right now and i'm sure MS will be throwing us some curve's with official releases. I looked at vlite although i don't use and never seen the Disable minimum system requirements like was present in nlite which was done auto. Maybe he don't add if your sys is over them or i totally missed it.
So either I don't see it or he doesn't know yet or hasn't added it yet
Actually I found that in the Doc a few days ago, but I forgot what this thread was about in the first place due to all the moronic attitudes...
Anyway, I've been localizing most of the needed info now for my work on this.
I don't know how far you have come when it comes to editing the registry in the image and removing components, but I have got it pretty much laid out now.
I have got all the services and components mapped out and sorted.
It's all about just a few locations if you want to do it right.
Thanks for helping out!
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clint -> It's time for You to visit doctor. Maybe he can help to Your mind problems? :wacko:
Maybe you could give an explanation on why I should visit a doctor?
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Bitter...very bitter...I'll shut up now you can dream on.
Yeye, avoid it and ignore all requests even for a simple regtweak...very good for community.
..and I'm not bitter...and not near a "copycat" of you...actually ahead of you dude.
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Clint, I bust my a** figuring out, I'm not pulling anything...show me another nlite or vlite.
I always answer when it's appropriate, when not asked by a copycat...but your rude tactics are not my thing.
Yeyeye, same answer as I was expecting...and you are simply lying when you say you allways answer on tweak-specific questions....that are related to Microsoft Windows OS...NOT nlite or vlite....I have NEVER seen you answer any of those questions..(and they are quite a few).
You know, here do we share tweaks and such that are related to Windows...thats the core mentality of this board....so don't come dragging with "bust my a**"....and you saying that you never pull info here...that is almost an insult to your fellow members.
..and that talk about "copycat" and "show me another nlite or vlite" is just giving yourself away my friend..big headed and bloated mind from all those 'nlite button clickers' fanboys around you is what I say.
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Oh isn't that my bitter pal Clint taunting me again.
prathapml,
vLite doesn't use any unattended xml or anything, it does all directly.
If something for sure isn't working on vlited install and exactly the same file confirmed working on the full install then check which entries actually can't hold on...something removed. For example setting up Windows Mail with Mail removed might trigger that response. OR Images removed. Try Apply method 1. And what is the error...you may answer that with the bug report on the vLite forum.
Hehe, I'm not bitter...have no reason to be
Just complaining that you never give out any info or hints regarding tweaks, registry edits or similar...only pulling info...and I'm not talking about specific nlite/vlite code.
But then you might wanna break the trend and give a hint on where you disable OOBE then?
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Ask Nuhi where he has hidden the Unattended that is created with Vlite, or he has done a sxs package or similar...maybe in the system or components hive as well.
I seriously doubt he will answer though...
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Yes, a verified working basic config sample would be benefitial to a lot of newbies like me.
Thanks fellas!
..the weird part is that I get my AutoUnattend passed in WAIK but it still hangs at the end of install..
..and it changes the resolution in the beginning of install so it obviously passes the entries before that...very odd.
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This is killing me!
Here is my code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<unattend xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:unattend">
<settings pass="windowsPE">
<component name="Microsoft-Windows-International-Core-WinPE" processorArchitecture="x86" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" versionScope="nonSxS" xmlns:wcm="http://schemas.microsoft.com/WMIConfig/2002/State" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
</component>
<component name="Microsoft-Windows-Setup" processorArchitecture="x86" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" versionScope="nonSxS" xmlns:wcm="http://schemas.microsoft.com/WMIConfig/2002/State" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<ComplianceCheck>
<DisplayReport>Never</DisplayReport>
</ComplianceCheck>
<UserData>
<ProductKey>
<WillShowUI>OnError</WillShowUI>
</ProductKey>
</UserData>
<Display>
<ColorDepth>32</ColorDepth>
<HorizontalResolution>1024</HorizontalResolution>
<VerticalResolution>768</VerticalResolution>
</Display>
<UseConfigurationSet>true</UseConfigurationSet>
<DiskConfiguration>
<WillShowUI>Always</WillShowUI>
</DiskConfiguration>
</component>
</settings>
<settings pass="oobeSystem">
<component name="Microsoft-Windows-Shell-Setup" processorArchitecture="x86" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" versionScope="nonSxS" xmlns:wcm="http://schemas.microsoft.com/WMIConfig/2002/State" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<OEMInformation>
<Manufacturer>The TEAM</Manufacturer>
<Model>VISTA Gamers Ed.</Model>
</OEMInformation>
<OOBE>
<HideEULAPage>true</HideEULAPage>
<NetworkLocation>Other</NetworkLocation>
<ProtectYourPC>3</ProtectYourPC>
<SkipUserOOBE>true</SkipUserOOBE>
</OOBE>
<Display>
<ColorDepth>32</ColorDepth>
<HorizontalResolution>1024</HorizontalResolution>
<VerticalResolution>768</VerticalResolution>
</Display>
<VisualEffects>
<FontSmoothing>ClearType</FontSmoothing>
</VisualEffects>
<TimeZone>Central Standard Time</TimeZone>
</component>
</settings>
<cpi:offlineImage cpi:source="wim:c:/vista/sources/install.wim#Windows Vista ULTIMATE" xmlns:cpi="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:cpi" />
</unattend>I still get that darn "minimum 512mb" popup..!
Please guide me here...
Thanks!
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Hi Clint,
To skip that check, in Autounattend.xml, ensure that ComplianceCheck=Never.
Here it is with all the extra junk that the unattended xml code demands:
<settings pass="windowsPE">
<component name="Microsoft-Windows-Setup" processorArchitecture="x86" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" versionScope="nonSxS" xmlns:wcm="http://schemas.microsoft.com/WMIConfig/2002/State" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<ComplianceCheck>
<DisplayReport>Never</DisplayReport>
</ComplianceCheck>
</component>FireGeier, that problem is solved by ensuring that NetworkLocation is configured from the oobeSystem pass.
EDIT: I can't get this to work...!
Are you sure it should be a "windowsPE" title and then component name "Microsoft-Windows-Setup" ?
Thanks!
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I must ventilate this:
After upgrade the UI is a bit different, I can live with that.
A bit annoying is the fact that the emoticons aren't sorted after most commonly used, the first set of emoticons should ofcourse be the most commonly ones used.
As it is now you'll have to click next everytime to get a regular smiley, not very well thought out.
Also when using the smiley option now, the code will stay highlighted...meaning I must hit space or arrow before typing on...otherwise I will write over it....again not very well thought out.
...upgrades are supposed to improve things.
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Thanks for helping out!
How does this loke like?
I can't understand why the "offlineImage" line has to be there, can't I just remove it?
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<unattend xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:unattend">
<settings pass="windowsPE">
<component name="Microsoft-Windows-International-Core-WinPE" processorArchitecture="x86"
publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" versionScope="nonSxS"
xmlns:wcm="http://schemas.microsoft.com/WMIConfig/2002/State"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
</component>
<component name="Microsoft-Windows-Setup" processorArchitecture="x86" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35"
language="neutral" versionScope="nonSxS" xmlns:wcm="http://schemas.microsoft.com/WMIConfig/2002/State"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<UserData>
<ProductKey>
<WillShowUI>OnError</WillShowUI>
</ProductKey>
</UserData>
<Display>
<ColorDepth>32</ColorDepth>
<HorizontalResolution>1024</HorizontalResolution>
<VerticalResolution>768</VerticalResolution>
</Display>
<UseConfigurationSet>true</UseConfigurationSet>
<DiskConfiguration>
<WillShowUI>Always</WillShowUI>
</DiskConfiguration>
</component>
</settings>
<settings pass="oobeSystem">
<component name="Microsoft-Windows-Shell-Setup" processorArchitecture="x86"
publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" versionScope="nonSxS"
xmlns:wcm="http://schemas.microsoft.com/WMIConfig/2002/State"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<OEMInformation>
<Manufacturer>The TEAM</Manufacturer>
<Model>VISTA Gamers Ed.</Model>
</OEMInformation>
<OOBE>
<HideEULAPage>true</HideEULAPage>
<NetworkLocation>Other</NetworkLocation>
<ProtectYourPC>3</ProtectYourPC>
<SkipMachineOOBE>true</SkipMachineOOBE>
<SkipUserOOBE>true</SkipUserOOBE>
</OOBE>
<Display>
<ColorDepth>32</ColorDepth>
<HorizontalResolution>1024</HorizontalResolution>
<VerticalResolution>768</VerticalResolution>
</Display>
<VisualEffects>
<FontSmoothing>ClearType</FontSmoothing>
</VisualEffects>
<TimeZone>Central Standard Time</TimeZone>
</component>
</settings>
<cpi:offlineImage cpi:source="wim:c:/vista/sources/install.wim#Windows Vista ULTIMATE"
xmlns:cpi="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:cpi" />
</unattend>..it will still give me errors at install with this
EDIT: Is it just me, or hasn't the board gotten changed to the worse...the user UI is terrible.
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**** this AutoUnattend.xml crap!
I get errors and whatnot all the time, and the helpfiles are not of much help when it comes to understand the format.
I only need to have this settings applied, nothing more:
<OOBE>
<HideEULAPage>true</HideEULAPage>
<NetworkLocation>Other</NetworkLocation>
<ProtectYourPC>3</ProtectYourPC>
<SkipMachineOOBE>true</SkipMachineOOBE>
<SkipUserOOBE>true</SkipUserOOBE>
</OOBE>..I only need a template to use for this only, coz I do constant installs in VMware and this will save me 3min each time.
Can someone give me a little bit of code?
Thanks!
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Actually I was aiming at the check at first boot that will stop you from installing if you don't meet the minimum requirements.
I've started to pull this thing apart and from the looks of it will 256mb of memory do just fine, so I need to remove that check that will popup and demand 512mb system memory.
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Hi again boys!
I need to disable that "minimum system requirements" check in the beginning of install.
It should be possible to change the value or disable it somewhere..
Thanks!
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have you mounted it once again and seen if changes did take effect?
Yes, changes to both size and image this time.
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Problem solved!
As you said must I use the same switch as in the original image, so when I apply "/compress fast" it works.
One could think it would work without switch when fast is default...but this is how things are..
Thanks for the help!
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No, that seems only to be a higher compression...it takes a much longer time to compress with that switch.
Are you meaning this will force the changes to the image as well?
EDIT: After testing I can't see any changes in size from removal of files using that switch.
Can someone please give me a hint on this, this is getting very annoying...
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Ok, gonna try that...!
thanks!
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Ok, this is getting silly...
I first mount the image with:
imagex /mountrw C:\Vista\sources\install.wim 4 C:\Mount.VISTA
I then remove files and stuff from the mounted image worth something like 300mb.
I then unmount it with:
imagex /unmount /commit C:\Mount.VISTA
After that I copy the image:
ImageX /export /check C:\Vista\sources\install.wim 4 C:\newinstall.wim
...but the newinstall.wim is STILL the same size as the original install.wim...???
wtf?!?
this can't be this complicated..
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vlita vista for use on an Laptop
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Posted · Edited by Clint
No, still not true.
It is percentage based (sorta), if you have less memory available it will take less..(all within a certain range).
Read up on it..
And have you understand what the Readyboost feature is?
It will pull/give nothing until it's activated, and for that you will need an External Memory Device...like USB drive, SD Card, Compact Flash, or other flash memory device that is connected to your computer.
It does absolutely nothing on it's own...so if it's removed it will save/gain nothing in memoryusage.
..don't "recommend" this and that if you don't know the facts...