Hello all, My 1st post I legitimately own all MS OS's ever made but 98SE is still one of my favorites & usually install service pack 1.5 on every 98se system I make for whomever I make them for but last weekend I found a problem that prevented me from using it. I upgraded my sons K6-2/500 machine to a P3-866 machine with a 40 gig H/D & 512mb ram +64mb video for his birthday & also got him a copy of Tony Hawke 3 Pro Skater. The game would'nt work however in 98se so I installed it on the second partition as I divided the 40gig drive equally & dual booted the machine using PM8. The second partition has XP-Pro. I received the same error message on the XP partition as in the 98se system which was a Visual C runtime error. I searched google for hours & found thousands of results with the same error message but all triggered by different apps but all being a Visual C related error. Visual C - Error Message exactly the same on both OS's So I reformatted the 98se partition & reinstalled but this time only installing what I considered it needed being that it's a game machine for a 10 year old , { shutdown supp / hard-drive cache supp / mdac2.8 / scripting support / jet3.5 sp3 / no security updates & no service pack. Now it plays the game in 98se without the Visual C runtime error message. My question is , does the visualC runtime have to be part of the service pack & has anyone else had errors relating to Visual C when playing games.. Oh , & the reason I use the service pack 1.5 is 1.62 stopped windows update from working as soon as it was installed with the update sight telling me that the reason it would'nt work was my time was incorrect, which it was'nt. So to prove it was the service-pack 1.62 I reinstalled both times & used windows update 1st then on rebooting used the service pack & found windows update stopped working again resulting in the same error. Both systems were HP vectra VE350 systems with P3-500 256ram / 4.3gig H/D built & sold as internet machines only.. Cheers..! KenOath.