Networkin AD-HOC the SSIDs(name of the network it wants to join) must be the same, the channel numbers must be the same and the adapters must be configured to work in AD-HOC mode. With the wired one have u made sure that the NICs are working find buy using the loopback address? 127.0.0.1. Oh and you must make sure that the Classes of IPs are the same, Subnets are the same and the workgroup name is the same like MSHOME, WORKGROUP etc, could even be SKYWORLD. can't think of anything else atm if i think of anything else i'll post. thanks Dan