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Thanks for the work around! My system no longer crashes! My time here has been very pleasant, especially compared to the rest of the project, specifically 6 oses (9Xs in general, nt4, 2k, and vista) Thanks for all the help @Dave-H, @awkduck, and especially @deomsh.

PcipatchB= was not necessary. set to $0000 and it still worked Volume control still doesn't go to silent after fixing that line, but its not an issue. The only problem I have is a system crash when I try to launch a game called puzzle fighter with ram over 2048 or 4096 in system.ini as TSR seems to (?) preform an illegal action and bluescreen the system. Weirdly enough though, the desktop comes back after the bluescreen and the system continues as normal. I can live with the limited ram as I only use 98 once in a million years, but this is wierd. If needed, I can supply the hdalog after it happening and related system.ini settings, but it seems that it is an unsolvable problem because of hdatsr.exe glitching when puzzlefighter launches. I can live with it (not really a problem just glad to have (somehow) sound and (somehow) video at all) but just though to report it.

14 years later: THIS WAS SO USEFUL. I am so glad that wayback machine exists!

These seems to have done nothing. I may have written the HDACIOUT.HDA wrongly though, so here it is: Hdaicout.hda I'm not super worried about it. Having a little bit of sound when it is muted is fine. It's not like I can't just mute it on the speaker end. The only reason I wanted sound control in the first place was because it was maxing out my speakers, which it doesn't anymore, so were good.

It seems that the value 0C worked. I set the volume to 00000000 and it still made sound but was VERY quiet. Ill gradually make it louder until it is good. Thank you for the help. I would bet all values may work, just needing to be set extremely quiet to make a difference on my hardware? A very interesting problem to say the least. Now that I know, it is quite simple. Just pin waveout and done. Thanks!

@deomsh I have manually adjusted the volume in the config file and waveout writes to it properly. I have also tried all the VolumeWidget= possibilities and the volume never goes down even though I have it set to 3c003c00... I have a feeling that it wont work because the files had to be manually copied, waveout and the other volume ones, to the windows folder as they weren't originally for some reason... here are the files if you want to look: HDAcfg.iniHDALOG.TXT

Not really fond of reinstalling windows considering it took me a weekish to get drivers and stuff working... I can install the USB drivers and it will work just fine, but since it hasn't installed the mouse or keyboard, I can't click next on the screen to install the mouse or keyboard. Bad design moment. Still, I can use the mouse and keyboard because I just leave out usbd.dll and it doesn't fully load the drivers so it sees it as a ps/2 mous and keyboard. Weird these things are. I have one idea, which is to have them plugged into different sets of ports so it picks up one of the input devices, so I'll try that. Anyway, this is off topic. :/ EDIT: I tried this but since the file is there now, all the USB ports load properly and recognize the mouse, asking for me to install it, but I DONT HAVE A MOUSE TO DO IT WITH... annoying. Ill just deal with no hot plug until I can find a PS/2 mouse/keyboard/adapter to use... EDIT 2: I just had to not reboot in between so it would keep the driver until i updated it *facepalm*

I don't seem to have this file... weird... I'll manually copy it and see... Manually copying it did not work. I copied all the files in the volume folder to the windir and windir/system and nothing (i did both at the same time). The waveout.exe launches, looks weird though, as expected, and moving the sliders all the way down or super low does nothing. System sounds still act insanely loud and max my speakers...

It works! Thanks for helping me along the way. If you would like to do any more testing with my system, I'm down. For now, though, it works perfectly. Like Dave said, a bit distorted at times, but nothing that can't be overlooked. I do have 1 question though. How do I change the volume? There's nothing on the taskbar for volume like the newer OSes. This is just a 98 question in general as It's loud enough to max out my speakers... Anyway, thanks for the help!

NEVERMIND IT WORKS. I used HDARUN.EXE and I got sound!!!!!! I understand that this is sketchy under 98, but its definetely an improvement!!! I can definitely see the stability issues though. If I try to close the program with the event still on, bad news bears. An explorer has preformed an illegal operation!

To be clear: I used some random driver I found on line to install the plug and play bios failsafe as a pci bus so everything would show up. I then installed drivers for everything except USB/Sound, no usb so that It wouldn't drop my mouse (I tried and it installed right but then I have no mouse to press next with to install the mouse usb driver and no keyboard either, quite frustrating). This board is from 2014 or something and has pci-e though, so maybe it will never work, idk. I was not around during 98. thats about 15 years to early for me... but I like the classic games. Mostly one, which I have working to an extent on XP, but xp takes lightyears to load and then the game can bug out all the time. Would be better to get it on dos as it was released in 1995/6 or something. Not sure what I'm doing wrong as I get the thump on startup and everything seems to be working right except for the slider moving in media player and, ofc, no sound. If it means anything, the device shows up under system devices in device manager but that seems normal? I don't really know...

I'm down for the long haul on this one. My school gets out in 3 days so I have plenty of time Correct I don't really understand the graph at all... Im not good at that kinda stuff I did all that you said. New hdaicout.hda, settings in hdacfg.ini, and used headphones. I got the thump on startup but no sound was made. Now I can hear the sound on every startup, which seems good. I tried both settings of the things in hdacfg ($02 and $25) and no luck. The windows sound applet in control panel either complains about busy sound device if I select the use available sound devices in multimedia settings, or if I select HDA sound in multimedia settings, it seems to never actually load the sound as the stop button never goes away. I wish I could teleport back to when the slider moved in media player but alas. Should I try using hdarun.exe? I may be doing something fundamentally wrong here but idk. HDAcfg.ini HDALOG.TXT

So I must have a complete misconfig because IntelHDA says there is no hda found... no matter what. It shows up in device manager and the devices window of control panel sounds, but INTELHDA cant find it... this is probably a lost cause... I understand that this board is very new and likely may not work...

Hey! I've been using this driver and I'm having almost the exact problems Dave had originally, but his hdaicout.hda doesn't work. Ive tried (I think) all hdaicout.hdas and I have one that works the best for me, once making media player think it was playing something at one point. Ive tried (I think) all the things mentioned in this thread. This one stumps me. This goes without saying, but you ofc dont have to help me. My best working hdaicout.hda: Hdaicout.hda Seems to me though that the getting media player to not complain and move the slider was complete luck though Ill just list a bunch of specifications right now for future reference: IPIBL-LB Benicia from a really old HP Pavilion m9340f (I think) that I'm using the integrated GPU on (probable doesn't matter). The best spec sheet ive been able to find is quite useless http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/benicia-ipibl-lb-motherboard-specs/ Intel G33 Chipset with alc888s 7.1 channel audio I have 13 OSes on the same system for ... reasons Windows 3.1 (which I plan to try the original on), 95, 98, ME, NT4, 2K, XP, Vista, 7, 8.1, 10, 11 and Ubuntu I have everything driver related working back to 2K (except wifi on 2K) I have a intel core 2 quad Q6700, stock Windows 98SE No video drivers sadly enough, but Im working on that Sucesses: Judas and mplayer work with all versions of hdaicout.hda and without. If I let Judas play at least half the song, then skip to the end and let bug.bat launch windows, I have a 50%ish chance of getting the thump of it connecting during startup, but it still doesn't work. If I adjust the volume in Judas then do it, its almost 99% chance of getting a thump but still nothing in windows. All hdaicout versions do this. The one I have above once let media player have the bar slide across thinking it was playing, but that has not happened since with any hdaicout version, even it. They just have hda sound show up in the options menu and then when I select it everything lags and media player forever says opening and the sounds widget in control panel forever plays, im assuming not initializing right. This is the way it is regardless of the thumps or not at startup. I have a feeling a custom HDAICOUT.HDA will be required, but I don't know. This is not my field. I haven't tried every configuration possible, but If someone would want to help me that would be great. I can supply all info needed just ask me. I'm not sure what all the config files do, so I haven't really messed with them. Any info you want just ask. All hda stuff.zip hope I didn't miss anything. Ill work on getting the intelpci sheet soon but Ill post this for now Have a good day! (to whoever is reading this)