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  1. hello again. i finally figured out what the problem was with all these browsers running on my xp64 machine. i talked to the person who did the updated acpi.sys and apparently i needed an updated hal.dll to go along with it, there is a timing issue in windows xp on the recent intel chipsets, he sent me the new hal.dll and all the browsers work perfectly now. thought id mention it again here in case anyone else has the problem in the future.
  2. i tried most of those, they didn't seem to change anything. at this point, im pretty sure the problem is driver or hardware related, i've noticed minor graphical problems in a few other programs. i've tried two versions of the amd drivers, as well as the onboard intel video with the default windows xp video driver, and also got the same result, so it might not be video. ii am using a complety unsuported chipset and processor, this entire computer was never meant to run windows xp 64-bit. i may try installing xp32 just to see if that makes any difference. i tried installing virtualbox, to have a windows xp vm on a windows xp host to see what would happen there, but virtualbox refuses to install, so maybe that means something too. dxdiag tests show everything is fine on the machine, so its quite the mystery. if anyone has any ideas for other tests or benchmarks i could do, i'll give them a try.
  3. that fixed it! i must have missed that, i'd been pretty busy for a few days and hadn't had time to work on this. unfortunately, like all the other browsers i've tried on this machine, it works fine for 5-10 seconds, then it doesn't redraw the window without some kind of manual intervention, pages render fine youtube videos play sound, but the whole gui remains frozen unless you resize the window, use the menu bar, or switch to another window on top of it then switch back. though unlike newmoon or firefox, k-meleon does update the tab bar and other ui elements, where the others just keep them however they were when you open the browser.
  4. with the profiles folder deleted, forcing it to create a new one, and no addons installed, it pops up "a new plugin has been found, k-meleon adblock, would you like to load this plugin now?" yes or no, same result: immediately crash, standard windows xp "this program encountered a problem and needs to close" message. on the second time opening it it says it wasn't closed properly, would i like to restore a previous session, yes or no, same result as the first time i tried deleting update.dll (and adblock.dll), no change, except the crash is immediate. then i deleted the entire plugins folder, same thing. i added the crashreporter plugin, which seems to work, but i dont really know what to do with it's information. i tried it on my windows 10 installation on the same machine, and had the same results, maybe it's the vb runtimes, but i thought i had them up-to-date everywhere, but i'll check again, i'll also redownload on the off chance maybe the download just didn't come thru correctly. im starting to think there might just be some major hardware level incompatibility on this machine in windows xp for mozilla-based browsers, but i'll try browser.display.use_document_fonts"=0 (disabled) in newmoon to see if that changes anything too.
  5. @cc333 yep. that was the first thing i did, as well as tried disabling hardware acceleration on the os level. same result. just a while ago, i realized i can also force the window contents to update by moving another window in front of it, then clicking back to the palemoon window. also, if it would help narrow things down, chrome-based browsers has a very similar problem. i feel like if i could figure out the reason for the immediate crash of k-meleon, it might get me close to finding the problem with everything. is there any way to enable some kind of logging mode apart from just the windows erorr reporting?
  6. i tried all of these new builds on my xp64 machine, same result as before: fine for the first 5-10 seconds, then the window contents freeze and wont redraw until it's manually resized or you click the menu bar. borealis will actually update the tab bar and other ui elements when you do that (none of the others will) and k-meleon crashes immediately, but i cant make any sense of windows error reports. the title bar always updates as it should, pages render correctly, youtube videos play audio but the video remains frozen with the rest of the page. i know im probably starting to sound like a broken record on here, but the fact that for the firs time in a long time i've encountered a computer problem i cant fixed has upset me dearly lol.
  7. i tried with my computer's onboard graphics (not really sure what it is, i've never actually used it before, intel something i think, no proper drivers exist for xp) with the default windows xp video drivers, and again, same result. i do get a bluescreen when i try to set the resolution above 800x600, so im not sure if thats a fair test. i was starting to think it might be that new acpi.sys that lets xp work in the first place that was the problem, but all the browsers work fine with that acpi.sys in virtualbox. this is weird.
  8. i already tried that too. it didn't make any difference, but i'll look over it again i may have missed something, i broke the whole xp install last night, so now i've got to start over again anyway. here's where i found the updated acpi.sys: https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2019/10/updated-windows-xp-acpisys.html everything on the system works great now, with the exception of a web browser. EDIT: i tried that again, with both the default video driver and the correct one, and still the same result. i did notice that clicking the menu bar can also force the window to redraw, sometimes.
  9. hi. sorry if this is the wrong place for this, but i can usually fix my own problems, so im pretty new to asking for help lol. i recently installed windows xp 64-bit on my windows 10 desktop (intel i5 cpu, amd radeon r7 200 graphics) the whole system is actually too new to run windows xp, but someone told me about an updated acpi.sys and windows xp seems to be running great now. except for the web browser, i've tried a bunch of different firefox-derived browsers, yours and others, and they all seem to have the same problem: the first few seconds everything is fine, but then the window freezes and wont redraw until it's manually resized. the last official version of firefox i can get to work correctly is 17, anything newer has the problem. palemoon 15 works fine too, but i haven't tried every version to find the last one that works. hardware acceleration is turned off directx is up-to-date. i have tried 32-bit and 64-bit versions. there are no plugins installed. it has the same result on a completely stock xp system with the default video driver as it does on a fully updated system with last amd xp video drivers. pages seem to render fine, i can type something into the address bar and hit enter, the title bar changes but the rest of the screen stays the same, until the window is manually resized, then it looks like it should. the tab bar never changes. i've tried everything i can think of, and im willing to accept it's some weird problem that only i will have because im trying to run old software on new hardware, but i thought i'd check here first before i gave up. thanks in advance!
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