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After some time of testing this, I can say that it works. Manual entry of settings for IPV 4 settings/properties, leaving blank the default gateway prevents the reconnect...until, I re-enter the default gateway. However, sometimes I need to set it back to getting it automatically and then it will connect, but I would think that is because it expires, like you said. All is good! Thank-you, so much for your help.

Okay, I changed the ethernet IPV 4 settings to match the ethernet ipconfig results, and I'll try it.

What happens is, that when VPN is turned off, the first line is removed, and the 2nd line is used and thus connects direct to ISP. When changing the option to enter an address (in network properties), it also opens and requires the option for DNS address. Are all these addresses found in the route tables I posted? If so, which ones? Thanks.

Is it also correct when vpn software says: "Requsting an IP address To the DHCP server in the VPN", that "0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.238.254.254 10.238.118.29 20" is the address from the DHCP sever from the VPN? Thanks.

Question: The 2nd route table copy above represents when the default gateway is deleted out of the table. I would think that the network would then do one of 2 things: 1. Automatically try to connect using a 2nd option as displayed in the route table, which fails. 2. Does not at all try to connect to anything. Is this correct, and if so, which does it do? Thanks.

Is this 2 steps to one possible solution? or Are these 2 different possible solutions? Thanks.

Thanks, for confirming. !st question: When you said, "What you can do is:", there are 2 items. Are you saying both are required, or either one?

I have a couple questions about your last post, but before I ask that, I have been trial and error-ing and to get some real data to show you so that you do not need to "imagine", as you said, what is happening. Below is data from the route table with my descriptions. Your response might be the same as your last post, or it may assist you to give more information. If your response would be just the same as your previous post, or in other words, this data is exactly as you expected, you can just say something like, "okay, I saw the data...go ahead with your questions". Otherwise, please, point out any other findings. Here is the route table, connected as normally connected to internet: Active Routes: Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.204.0.1 10.204.1.182 20 10.204.0.0 255.255.248.0 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 10.204.1.182 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 10.204.7.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 127.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 192.168.56.0 255.255.255.0 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 192.168.56.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 192.168.56.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 Next, is after deleting the default gateway and adding the VPN server (route delete 0.0.0.0, and, route add 219.100.37.86 mask 255.255.255.255 10.204.0.1): Active Routes: Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric 10.204.0.0 255.255.248.0 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 10.204.1.182 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 10.204.7.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 127.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 192.168.56.0 255.255.255.0 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 192.168.56.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 192.168.56.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 219.100.37.86 255.255.255.255 10.204.0.1 10.204.1.182 21 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 Next, after connecting vpn (Note: when vpn connects, vpn software says: "Requsting an IP address To the DHCP server in the VPN") Active Routes: Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.238.254.254 10.238.118.29 20 10.204.0.0 255.255.248.0 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 10.204.0.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 10.204.1.182 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 10.204.7.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 10.238.0.0 255.255.0.0 On-link 10.238.118.29 276 10.238.118.29 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.238.118.29 276 10.238.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.238.118.29 276 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 127.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 192.168.56.0 255.255.255.0 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 192.168.56.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 192.168.56.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 219.100.37.86 255.255.255.255 10.204.0.1 10.204.1.182 21 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 10.238.118.29 276 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.1.182 276 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.238.118.29 276 (After 15-20 minutes, nothing changes.) After several hours, still connected to VPN, the default gateway appears. There are also 2 entries with the same metric value, which I did not think was possible (?), Active Routes: Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.238.254.254 10.238.118.29 20 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.204.0.1 10.204.4.59 20 10.204.0.0 255.255.248.0 On-link 10.204.4.59 276 10.204.4.59 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.4.59 276 10.204.7.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.4.59 276 10.238.0.0 255.255.0.0 On-link 10.238.118.29 276 10.238.118.29 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.238.118.29 276 10.238.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.238.118.29 276 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 127.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 192.168.56.0 255.255.255.0 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 192.168.56.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 192.168.56.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 219.100.37.86 255.255.255.255 10.204.0.1 10.204.4.59 21 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 10.238.118.29 276 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 10.204.4.59 276 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.56.1 266 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.238.118.29 276 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.204.4.59 276 (When VPN is disconnected, internet is connected.)

Thank-you, for your response. Just in case there are some differences in each of our understanding, I will try to help you to help me. In other words, (lol)--even if I don't know what I'm saying, you probably will. I will do similar to what you have done and present (to my ability) what I think is happening. Maybe some parts are the same as what you think, but just to be sure.... I connect my (Windows) PC to wired ethernet. I'm not sure whether it is set as DHCP (as I'm not quite sure what that does/is...I make a guess below.) I then delete the default gateway from the route table. I then add the VPN server to the route table. I then start VPN. It might be important for you to know that this VPN has installed and uses its own virtual adapter. As I limitedly understand it, when using automatic connection, Softether establishes its own arrangement of DHCP. I think I read that somewhere on the Softether site. (A guess would be that the above VPN server that I manually add is the DHCP...or, at least has something to do with that?) While VPN is connected, I have checked route table after 10-15 minutes, and the default gateway that I deleted is still deleted, AND, if I disconnect VPN at this point, there is no internet connected (desired), and when checking route table after disconnect, default gateway is still deleted. If I do not disconnect VPN at this point......... While VPN is still connected, I have checked after several hours, and the default gateway that I had deleted, is back in the table, but the connection is still through VPN, AND, if I disconnect VPN at this point, there is internet connected (not desired). According to information on Softether site, when DHCP lease renews, the VPN should not disconnect. --------------------- If it would help, I can post a copy of the route table at each above step. As far as your add suggestion/example, I am not sure at what above point I should try that, or maybe, the additional information above might affect that.

Thanks. This is getting a little beyond my knowledge, but maybe this will help. The VPN is Softether. I believe that it does have its own adapter. It does set up a DHCP server. According to some information I found on its site, when the lease renews, the VPN should not disconnect. I have tried getting an answer there about this issue for some seeks, but no one responds.

Thank-you, for your response. Yes, that is what I did, the "add" and "delete" I mention under "Description of Issue" (route delete.... route add). The problem is, some hours after my making this deletion of the default gateway from the route table, somehow it gets added back in, and there are no reboots happening. (?) If the idea of your post is to make it static with the p switch, it appears that permanent changes using the p switch are only allowed with adds and not deletes. It seems to me with various sources I have read, that this mysterious re-adding should not be happening.

Background: Note: I am capable of making these modifications and understand the results, but not exactly how it works. I often, and am currently staying in a place with public internet and prefer to use a VPN. Description of issue: I am trying to use a manual cut off for a VPN when using wired ethernet. By some instructions I found, I know I need to delete the default gateway from the route table and I know how, and I did so. I know I need to add the VPN server to the route table, and I know how and did so. To test it: If I leave VPN connected about 10-15 minutes there is internet through VPN, and then when I disconnect from VPN, there is no internet connection, which is what I want and what I expect by way of the foregoing settings. However, if I leave VPN connected for some hours, and then disconnect it, I find it immediately connects to internet without VPN. Additional observation: After VPN is connected for 10-15 minutes, just before disconnecting VPN, I check the route table and the default gateway that I deleted is indeed deleted, which is why there is no internet after disconnecting from VPN. However, after VPN is connected for some hours, when I check route table just before disconnecting VPN, I find that the default gateway has been added back in somehow, which is why it then connects to internet without VPN. Question: As to the default gateway somehow being added back in route table, how do I stop that from happening?

Okay, with version 2.0.65, the crash notice appears from the software instead of Windows. It says: "EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00408EDA in module 'MacroRecorder.exe'. Read of address 0506F0E8."

I downloaded it from the Macrorecorder website. Do they not have the latest version?

Unsolved mystery.

I am trying to use MacroRecorder with Windows 7. It works normally until it closes, and then it crashes. I plan to use it for sequential macros and need it to reopen again, but it cannot because it is froze up from the crash. Here is the information from Windows that the crash generates: Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: MacroRecorder.exe Application Version: 2.0.57.0 Application Timestamp: 5f8da7d2 Fault Module Name: MacroRecorder.exe Fault Module Version: 2.0.57.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 5f8da7d2 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 00008e6e OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 3811 Additional Information 2: 38112782f91f615d81d7d73356dc1c79 Additional Information 3: 9322 Additional Information 4: 932256e4452f0b3b91707a4a75393a36 I have also found that all I have to do is open the software, do nothing, and then close it, and it gets this crash. Can this be fixed? Thanks.

I believe you, but until now, that has never been my own experience. Task scheduler with restore points has always worked for me until now....for over 12 years. My thoughts are, since it has always worked so well, it must be just some little thing that is causing a problem. I was hoping to find out that little thing.

Oh, okay. Thanks. If anyone can see how to make the original task scheduler work with restore points, I would still like to know that, too.

omg, you wrote one? I feel that is an effort beyond expectation. Thank-you, so much.

You're right. Something like that would work to, in effect, re-invent your own task scheduler.

Thanks, for your response. As I stated previously, I am occasionally making a manual one while this is not working right. Making one every day will push them off the list too fast as the oldest one would be the one I would use, rather than one a few days old or less that would have the same problem as why I would need it.

"Or maybe someone knows but he/she isn't going to tell." --MSFN Where People Go to Know (?) "There is no law stating that a restore point needs to be made by task scheduler." --My question is specifically for task scheduler. "run at startup" --Already discussed. See above. As to HarryTri: I disabled restore point creation under system protection, disabled task scheduler creation, disabled antivirus, rebooted, re-enabled both, and waited some days, but no change. This is a new install of Windows.

I take it, no one knows how to set this up?

"I agree it should be possible to automate that to do as you want." --I believe it is possible, but something is wrong. It is possible in Vista and works fine. The task history in Windows 7 says, every 3 days, the restore point creation is started and completed successfully.

@walksinsilence "If I'd been creating restore points every three days I'd have nothing but month old restore points and how I would have fixed the problem I've no idea as I'd tried every other method I could think of to no effect." --I have never had a problem with 3 days. "What I really wish was that there was a restore point save option either provided or as a third party tool." --I have thought about that, also. I agree. Although, there is the option of an image backup, which I also have ready, if I ever need it, but restoring this is very time consuming. @harrytri Okay, thanks. I'll give those a try.