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6 hours ago, MrMateczko said:
I guess this problem will eventually lead to the problem of: should we focus on 98SE+ compatibility with more features, or keep 95 compatibility with some limitations, or perhaps make two versions, or maybe I'm just dumb thinking,
Personally, I want to stay with 95 compatibility because KernelEx works on 98/ME and not 95.
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Well, I think that's the problem right there. RetroZilla was designed to build under VC6 and to run under Win95 and NT4. IIRC VC2K3 can't target OSes before Win98 or NT5 (2K). When you get your binaries to me, I could test them on my 95 and NT4 test VMs, and if it works, I'll try to get the code to build, or upgrade my environment to VC2K3.
For now, I'm gonna roll back the code to before I added the TLS patch and keep the patches handy, I'm gonna push out that small 2.x release I was taking about a few weeks ago, and ship the TLS patch in the next major version.
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@roytam1 I tried applying your TLS files and building, and I have gotten errors involving WINVER being set as 0x0500 not 0x0400 which is required by WIn95 and NT 4, as well as an error in win95thred,c have you gotten these errors before? What OS have you been testing on? Could you send me a completed binary of what you included in the screenshot for me to play around with? (retrozilla.exe along with all the dlls and subfolders [dist/bin])
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Well, it turns out that I was able to get back into my Win2k build machine with another PS/2 keyboard, and now the USB drivers are installing properly. I don't know why it wasn't working a year ago. I guess now I can start work on RetroZilla again!
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39 minutes ago, roytam1 said:
Yes please do so
and for building binaries, it works in my old build rig(AMD Athlon X2 5200, 2GB RAM, XP SP3) which is upgraded from AMD Athlon 2600+(Socket 462)
For modifying sources and test build always taking 15~30 minutes each build.
How do you want your name displayed? Your MSFN user name or your real name?
Right now, my big issue is getting the builder to respect my objdir setting. It's just building into the source tree. It's a laptop using Win2k3 32-bit, Core 2 Duo, 2Gb RAM. I used to do the building on a Win2K box with blackwingcat's kernel, IDK why it built right on that machine, but I can't get back in due to the machine not recognizing my USB keyboard before the login screen. (2k does the driver installs after login, really good design MS) The PS/2 keyboard port is shot.
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7 hours ago, roytam1 said:
Great! I made a comment on the GitHub post, I still can't get it to build properly, but once I do, I will implement this. Do you want your name added to the contributor list in about:credits?
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2 hours ago, Dibya said:
If you can embed some open src codecs for playback then all done i believe ...
That could be done, albeit with some difficulty and hacks, in XP/2k. The issue with this is that the version of Gecko that we're using has absolutely no support for <video>. What I could probably eventually do is add a "RZ Companion" program or NPAPI plugin that sends YouTube links to an external player. (Like you could do with VLC on modern Windowses)
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9 hours ago, Ironman69 said:
rn10950, can you possibly get youtube to play videos with RZ 2.0 ? For me, the page loads with text, but the video screen is black with no activity.
I don't know about this. I just tried it on Win95 w/ latest RetroZIlla build and Flash 7 (w/ patch) and I get the same problem. YouTube is always a problem with projects like this. They always try to play games with compatibility projects because "innovation". There is no reason they can't keep a compatible Flash player around. (I know there still is a flash player around, and I can get to it on my main XP machine, but it requires a lot of spoofing and I have to experiment with it on Win9x, I may be able to get it working on 98/Me, but AFAIK 95/NT are done). Even on my main XP machine, I have noticed that the new website changes and new HTML5 player locks the whole browser up if you have 10+ YouTube tabs open, never had this problem before about 2 months ago. (This machine is also no lightweight, Quad Core CPU with 5GB of RAM, 64-bit Windows)
Regarding the new website changes however, that may be the one that breaks YouTube for everybody on anything below XP/2003. Right now on RetroZIlla and other older browsers, it drops you in the older view of the site that you could still access on newer browsers by going into the 3-vertical-dots menu in the top right hand corner of the site. (Surprisingly, this view doesn't lock up my newer machine) Knowing Google and YouTube, this will probably be gone in a few months, and when that happens, we may be SOL.
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1 hour ago, roytam1 said:
I wonder if you can upgrade NSS for supporting TLS 1.2 first.
I'll have to look into it. It depends on how long after Gecko 1.1.19 was released that TLS 1.2 support was added. The further out something was added, the more difficult it would be to add to rzGecko. If it is possible, it would most likely be added in rz3 instead of the 2.x release.
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WEEK TWO:
Still trying to get the build process to respect the objdir flag. I think I may just mount the HDD from the old build machine in another PC and see what I did to get it working in the first place.
HOWEVER:
Once I get the thing to build, I am considering releasing another 2.x release before I get to the good stuff. There have been a few issues I've had that could be fixed quickly before I get to the long-term development of the rendering engine. (default prefs [security alerts get annoying], search issues [prevent that g*dda*n sidebar from opening everytime one searches from the addressbar], possibly some tabbed browsing fixes, etc)
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Thank you all for the kind words. Some days are harder than others, but for the most part, I'm better than I was.
OK, now for a little status update.
Mozillla-build (the MINGW32 environment used to actually build the browser) has been acting up lately, so while I have had a few good builds with the existing (what's currently on GitHub) code, I have not been able to add to it as any changes I made would not be able to be committed to the GitHub. The issue being that I can't get make to actually respect the OBJDIR setting (the directory that the build files and binaries go in to) so right now, it's just building and dropping everything into the source tree (AKA making it impossible to use source control). I remember having a similar issue on my old build machine, but I can't remember how I fixed it. (I would love to go back into that machine and see, but I'm locked out) Once I get that sorted out, I will be able to actually start working. (And I will also put better build documentation in the root folder of the tree so this issue doesn't happen to anybody in the future)
On 1/8/2017 at 11:35 PM, JodyT said:I loaded up Opera 12.10 for fun a few days go. Besides some glitches, it works for the most part on this forum. And most sites were quite usable. So would that not work well enough for Win9x?
The main issue with that is that to get Opera to work, you need KernelEx (which AFAIK only works on 98SE/ME), I created RetroZilla for Windows 95 and NT4 and 98/ME users that don't wish to install KernelEx.
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I am sorry I have been gone for so long everybody, but I'm back now, hopefully for good. I had a death in the family, and it tolled on me extremely, along with some complicated projects outside of computing, as well as being locked out of my main building machine. I now have some more free time on my hands, and I recently picked up an old laptop that I could dedicate to building and testing on. I can't promise when I could get a build out, but work will be done slowly but surely. I have to get re-oriented with the code and build process, and where I left off. I haven't read the thread since I left, but I will tonight and answer any of your questions and concerns. Again, I am sorry that it took so long for me to work on this project, I really wish that I didn't fall off the radar like I did, but I'm back.
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It works fine for me on my Server 2003 x64 and x86 installs on both Firefox and SeaMonkey. Maybe try clearing your cache or creating a new browser profile.
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2 minutes ago, Tripredacus said:
How, exactly, does that look anything like Windows 7? Maybe they were referring to something not in the screenshot.
For Outlook, I would never use app version or .exe version. It has been many years since I used an actual email client. It is much safer to use web based in comparison. But that Outlook has a lot of extra space in it.
I have absolutely no idea. The other screenshots in the Forbes article are the same way.
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Well, here it is. Another MS design idea that looks worse than the last.
Microsoft Makes Significant Windows 10 Design Changes
QuoteIn recent years Microsoft has talked a lot about how it ‘cleaned up’ Windows. How Windows 8 then Windows 10 successively cut back on animations, shadows, and transparency effects introduced by Windows 7 ‘Aero’. Well now the company is taking a trip back to the future…
MSPowerUser has managed to attain an upcoming build of Windows 10 and it contains the first changes introduced by ‘Project NEON’ - a user interface upgrade. And guess what? They look a lot like Windows 7 Aero (NO THEY DON'T -rn10950) with a dash of Windows Phone and Android’s Material Design thrown in for good measure.
Here is an example of their new design for Outlook:
Thoughts?
(also notice the convenient lack of Start on the taskbar...)
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out, but it seems that MS finally did:
Microsoft finally admits that its malware-style Get Windows 10 upgrade campaign went too far
QuoteMicrosoft changed course within a month, but the company took a PR beating. Now, even Microsoft executives are agreeing that their update was more than a bridge too far. In an interview with Windows Weekly, Chris Capossela, Microsoft’s Chief Marketing Officer, called the weeks between Microsoft’s initial patch update and the eventual decision to reverse course on the malware-like installer “very painful.” He continues:
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38 minutes ago, cc333 said:
The Internet is the worst offender, since even a "simple" web site nowadays brings my 2009 Mac Pro with dual six core X5680s and 32 GB of DDR3-1066 to its knees
Definitely.
The signal-to-noise ratio regarding the web has decreased dramatically in the past decade. There are way too many scripts and unnecessary CSS files on modern webpages, not to mention the recent mobile-first fad where every webpage thinks it's a scrolling PowerPoint presentation. This is what happens when you give an artist a programmer's job.
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Just now, cc333 said:
(maybe 8.x and 10 are a bit more due to all the Metro App junk).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember the Windows 10 ISO being too large to fit on a 4GB flash drive, when 7's fit on there fine.
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4 hours ago, NoelC said:
Remember when Microsoft used telemetry to justify things like removing the Windows Backup UI? “Only 6% of people use it, according to telemetry, so we’re dropping support.” That was back in the time of Win 8. What a resounding success! Not.
One thing I don't understand is that
A) The people that would use Windows Backup would most likely be more technically inclined than people who wouldn't
B) The people that would disable Telemetry (or even know it exists in the first place) would most likely be more technically inclined than people who wouldn't
C) The people that would work at MS should be more technically inclined than people that don't work at MS
.... SO ....
How is the "revelation" that only 6% of users (with telemetry enabled) use the backup UI shocking? The demographic of users that would have not disabled telemetry and the demographic of users that would use backup directly contradict each other. The "geniuses" that work at MS should have figured this out by now, and they obviously haven't. These people are supposed to be technically inclined, AKA the users that would do the SAME THING.
Oftentimes, I wonder what MS would be like if people that had half an idea how to run a software company, and write and manage the world's most used desktop operating system, and not people with a "cloud fetish," were still in power.
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19 minutes ago, vinifera said:
yes, losing compatibility support for previous system (apps for xp)
yes, you'll get auto telemetry code embeded in VS '15 projectsYou can still write for XP in VS2013/15.
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32 minutes ago, NoelC said:
Adobe, for example, has added a "butler" to Photoshop CC 2017...
Does this reek with a smell of Clippy to anyone else?
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10 hours ago, Mcinwwl said:
Well, as a newbie to the topic (little experience in PS or CMD), I have a totally different opinion on both.
Personally, I can't stand cmd. Maybe it's ok for typing one command with parameters, but writing anything longer than a line is a massacre. Little functionality, some absurd variable storing and looping, and passing parameters to other command is even worse mess.
Once in an office we needed some simple script, to automatize tasks done with some Windows binaries. It ended up that I've been doing new ones in PS, because no one could have done it in Cmd without way-too-complex workarounds, I also updated others cmd scripts, which sooner or later ended with rewriting them in PS
Needed some filtering? Got it. Needed some more complex string operating? Methods awaiting just by the hand.
Long command names? That's why we have tab-completion and aliases. Besides, they are just based on English words, and the notation is easy to understand. One can get what is going on without knowing the specific command description, in comparison to short and cryptic cmd commands' and binaries' names. Maybe I'd have different opinion if I remembered names of all these cmd utilities, but I guess some of you have more experience with it than I live at all
Fact that the whole thing is more like modern programming language is even better for me - its object oriented character is quite natural for me (at least more 'natural' than any other coding approach).
I'm not saying PS is perfect, in fact it's still far from perfect (and, actually, Get-ChildItem is a perfect example of poorly named Cmdlet), it can overwhelm with it's complexity, but has a 'feeling' of something done with a dose of planning, while cmd looks like chaotically glued elements not fitting each other. And PS is really getting more functional with it's every edition, which can't be said about many M$ products right now
The major difference is that PowerShell was designed in the 2000s, it had a longer development time and new libraries to be based on. CMD is the direct successor to DOS and is mostly compatible with its commands, a lot of people are used to it and a lot of programs are written to run in it because it was always there.
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8 hours ago, NoelC said:20 hours ago, JorgeA said:
There's no question that portable tech has some benefits. You can make a phone call if you're running late, or get an update on the traffic for the route you're taking, or surf the Web while waiting for the wife to come out of the dressing room at the department store.
I might so far as to say "COULD have some benefits, if only it worked". But the ROI is just too small. When it's critical - when you NEED that traffic update or whatever bit of info, it just doesn't deliver fast enough (see next month's model and next year's network).
This is exactly why I haven't got rid of my landline yet and likely never will.
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57 minutes ago, ralcool said:
Um, no- its been back since Win8
Geez, photobucket is so loaded with ads it barely loads... cpu time crazy
Oh, OK. I haven't ventured much into post-7 territory with the exception of a few VM tests here and there.
I recommend using imgur or sli.mg instead of photobucket. They're much lighter (especially sli.mg) and you don't need an account.
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Needed some filtering? Got it. Needed some more complex string operating? Methods awaiting just by the hand.
Fact that the whole thing is more like modern programming language is even better for me - its object oriented character is quite natural for me (at least more 'natural' than any other coding approach).
RetroZilla: An updated version of Mozilla for Windows 95 and NT4 [2.2 RELEASED]
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It works on NT 3.51? Never knew. If I may ask, what kind of modifications did you do? If I could get it to reliably work on vanilla NT 3.51 (with SP5), I will support it officially.