Well some ones a got a fat carrot up his @SS. Listen here buddy if you don't want help me then why post? Any way I'm network administrator for a cape town branch of the company I'm out sourced at. The firewall I'm talking about is at the head office in colonge, germany. Because I'm not a direct employee of this compant I don't have admin or system rights to the firewall. Nuf Said. Take a hint buddy if you don't want to help somebody rather don't reply to thier topic! Hope not to hear from you again... To everyone else who may have some ideas, it would help me analise the security of my site more efficiently. SLAYER69