The problem i am trying to solve is a little complicated. I have read so much that my head is going to explode. What i am trying to do is on a 32gb usb stick have one partition, the first as fat32 with wpi programs, portable programs, drivers and manuals and such which can be seen by windows normaly, a second partition ntfs with 4 flavors of window,s pro and home with driver pack and without, slipstreamed with hfslip, and some other partitions with ubuntu live and some other linux live disks. Of course i am using usb_multiboot which is the best thing after sliced bread and everything goes great if there is one windows partition with all the windows sources and the other data i want to have. You understand that the root of that partition is seriously crammed and is not practical at all. That is why i want to seperate them. The thing is that the data partition has to come first so windows can see it and my stick is not one that works by flipping the removable flag. Installing a driver so it can be seen as a drive is not so much an option because it has to be generic and work everywhere, not only on my pc. What i have done so far is create two partitions one fat32 and one ntfs and then delete the first so the partition table is correct but the drive is viewable by windows so i can format it with 64k cluster size which i read somewhere in these forums that is needed and use the great usb_multiboot to create all the sources. I forgot to mention that i am booting with grub4dos and not the ntldr boot loader. Grub loads great, everything else works fine, if i create the first partition and copy everything there everything goes smoothly except the installation of any of the windows. Grub loads, calls ntldr, i get the menu, i pick an option, and i get a "file copy error, press alt+ctlr+del to continue". Is there somewhere hardcoded the partition on the loaders of usb_multiboot so i could maybe change it to be the second? I think that, that must probably be the problem. Of course i am open for suggestions as i could very well be very off. Any ideas are welcome. I am really close to doing exactly what i want and i really have to work pass this little hickup. Thank you all for all the great work you've done and anyone for any suggestions helpful or otherwise.