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I know what has to be done to enable DualView in case of the 18x/19x drivers work. It's just one registry entry which was present in 185.85 (and below) but was removed later. This doesn't apply to the newest drivers though as something else seems to be broken in them. There's also another issue related to the nVIDIA Service which loads up VERY slowly in some of the 19x drivers and I haven't had time to do the proper testing yet.
Just genius as a side note this will be very good to include as a separate addon with the USP as the Windows98se Unofficial SP 3.9 was included and it was very helpful
The driver is very small and it really shouldn't be a problem to include it in USP5.2 itself... but could you first tell me what exactly it is needed for? As I said before, I've got no clue about Xbox. What can you do with the driver installed?
You can use it to control your pc threw the controller or play games via the controller both of which is why it was added to the windows 98se unofficial sp3.9
from what I heard they are actually still working on the SP last release was last November actually nov 2011
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I don't think that the current problem with nVIDIA drivers may have anything to do regarding the hardware acceleration issues
I've checked the Xbox official package and what you need to do to install it is:
- Unpack it (using ex. 7-Zip).
- Go to "xbox360\setup\files\driver\vista_xp" and open "xusb21.inf".
- Find "[MSFT.NTx86]" and change it to "[MSFT]". Save changes.
- Go to "xbox360\setup".
- Use Orca to open "xboxacc.msi", go to "LaunchCondition" and remove everything from there. Save changes.
- Run "xboxacc.msi".
Just genius as a side note this will be very good to include as a separate addon with the USP as the Windows98se Unofficial SP 3.9 was included and it was very helpful
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I've done more testing regarding nVIDIA graphic drivers and it seems that Win2k compatibility was broken between Forceware 185.85 and 186.08.
185.85 - everything works correctly:
but in case of 186.08:
and when trying to enable Dualview:
I'm now going to find out what the difference between these two versions is and what exactly is responsible for this problem, and also whether there's any way to fix it.
Edit: I've also found this very interesting topic which may be useful to repack the drivers' installer later.
Frankly speaking, I've got no idea about Xbox. What kind of drivers are you thinking about? Could you give any links to download them?
http://matt-land.com/xbcd/ ----These are the Unofficial drivers which do not work as needed
http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/9/4/69446ACF-E625-4CCF-8F56-58B589934CD3/Xbox360_32Eng.exe These are the official drivers that work in windows xp sp2+
Also do you think the break in the Nvidia drivers Dual View might somehow be related to the problem with hardware acceleration in firefox?
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A new daily is ready. I've fixed one bug and updated several files. However there's a possibility that te newly added msftedit.dll is buggy so be careful.
For the last few days I've been fighting with nVIDIA graphic drivers. For some reason nView Dual Display doesn't want to work in the newer versions of the drivers. I've managed to modify the installer so that it installs not only the driver files themselves but also the nVIDIA Control Panel and other tools and eveything seems to work except for Dual Display
It does work in the older versions of the drivers so I'm determined to find out which version exactly broke the Win2k compatibility.
Do you know of anyway we can get xbox 360 controller drivers working
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Have you figured out why hardware acceleration isnt working in browsers correctly?
I don't know
but I think that Hardware Acceleration does work in Chromium, doesn't it? It doesn't work in Firefox.By the way, I haven't mentioned it before but the .NET Framework installer should also work in XP and 2003.
yeah it works in chrome just not firefox im trying to talk to the firefox developers as we all should to re extend the support for windows 2000 since we have made it compatible with the latest standards...idk what to say other then that perhaps see if black can find a way to fix the problem... im not sure exactly what they have changed.. maybe researcha bit on how windows xp and windows 2000 handle hardware acceleration differently
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Thank you for testing
I wonder if you could do the "standard" testing procedure (for both packages) which means
- install
- uninstall
- reinstall
- uninstall
Send me (upload) the log file:
- %windir%\uurollup-*.log in case of UURollup
- %windir%\netfx*.log in case of .NET Framework
I haven't tested slipstreaming in case of .NET Framework but it won't work from HF for sure, and should work from HFSVCPACK_SW1. The files themselves follow the 8.3 name format so HFSLIP will integrate them properly even when placed in HF but the commands from [ProcessesToRun*] in update.inf won't be executed. I can fix this though, and after that it should be also possible to integrate the package directly.
Edit: I was overoptimistic. HFSLIP won't be able to copy the files to the right folders. The only way to slipstream the .NET Framework installer is HFSVCPACK_SW1.
In USP5.2 there are going to be two different .NET installers - one same as the current installer used only when USP5.2 is installed manually in a running system, and a CAB / INF based installer used for slipstreaming executed during Windows setup. It's necessary because a CAB / INF installer can be used before the SVCPACK stage which is important if you want to use SVCPACK to install applications requiring .NET Framework. The OnePiece's .NET true addons are exactly like this but my CABs will be simpler (it will actually be only one CAB for all .NET Framework files).
Have you figured out why hardware acceleration isnt working in browsers correctly?
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You're right
This is the FINAL statement:
There will be a stable version of UURollup-v11... BUT it will be the last stable version of UURollup. It should be available at least in English and Italian. The planned release date is 24th November.
What stage are you at now? I think I've found a way to easily share your UURollup folder so that I can check it and see what has to be done. Under this link there's a shared SkyDrive folder where anyone can upload files as long as they're logged in. If you've already got a Microsoft Account then you can just log in and upload your UURollup folder, if not then you should create a new account (I hope that it's not a problem for you) and then log in and upload the folder. It's good because this way you can upload files directly to my SkyDrive account.
By the way, at the moment I've been testing a fully updated Win2k installation on my real hardware together with the newest drivers and I've found a bug in one of the updates (don't know yet which one). Basically speaking, when I integrate just USP5.1, UR2, UURollup (daily) and the newest IE Cumulative Update, and add the newest nVIDIA Graphic drivers then everything seems to work fine. On the other hand, when I integrate everything then there's a BSOD when trying to use hardware acceleration in any Web browser. It means that there is something wrong in one of the other updates. I'm investigating it right now.
Congratulations Tom your doing a great job =) Ill do some testing on your latest release
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Thank you Tom
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Just WHAT does any of that to do with the topic???
Nothing in particular but just wanted to give everyone on the topic a heads up to try Windows 8 for performance reasons I guess it could be considered advertising Microsofts latest OS as it seems to function well
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I have been using Windows 8 here recently and it seems to function very well I do not like the interface change so much but the OS its self actually runs quite a bit faster then both win7 and win2k I also have seen a gaming FPS improvement
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Your idealism and optimism knows no bounds! I totally agree that is the way it should be in a perfect world, but unfortunately their behavior and decisions around the world in their entire history say that will not happen. Some of the MS support team are members and contributors on this board and, to my knowledge, they have never made a single post in any of the threads having to do with extending or modifying any of the Win98 or Win2K files discussed in any of the threads here even though they would be aware of the work being done just by looking at the forum index. Some might argue that their silence implies consent, but somehow I doubt that. Again, I could be wrong, but...
Cheers and Regards
Hmm well I think if we give them a chance they will come around
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That sounds like a good idea, but since, as fdv said, the binaries of many of the pieces of tomasz86's work come from MS, (even though they are no longer supported in any way by MS, just like a lot of the Win98 pieces that are discussed on this forum), MS might have a problem with them being posted on Sourceforge and then being worked on by multiple people. There might not be any issue, but...
Cheers and Regards
Perhaps then we should as Microsoft for permission to work on them.... I think if we explain the situation and we tell them our goals and describe to them and insure them that we will not edit the files in anway that would cause a problem with Microsoft as well make sure that Microsoft does not take blame for any security flaws that might happen because of our work on it and agree not to distribute any of the files to anyone that does not already own the system then im sure they would be willing to allow us to improve on there operating systems foundation
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Hmm, what do you mean exactly by using SVN?
I mean using SVN via a place like Sourceforge would allow you to make revisions and undo them easily and also allow you to have other developers easily commit to your project SVN is more a newer tool for open source development and every time you commit to your project a version is made and all data is stored on the website database allowing you to reverse changes check threw all your progress ect in one easy to use area
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I haven't written for a few days...
The wintrust.dll problem is still unfixed. It must be possible to fix the problem but I haven't managed to do it yet. I've got something in mind but couldn't test it yet.
There won't be any new stable release of UURollup this month. The current daily versions of UURollup-v11 are still very experimental and there hasn't been any weekly version available too so it's still a long way to prepare a stable version. Good news is that I've finally managed to do a fresh installation of Win2k on my desktop and install the latest daily of UURollup-v11 there, and it worked! If I try to install it over UURollup-v10c in my current system it crashes so I was worried whether there might be a problem with my hardware but it doesn't seem so.
I might suggest to start using SVN it would be much easier and fast plus you could have much outside help that way
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Well I had been trying a remote access tool with every build you have made so far called logmein and until this release it has worked I am unsure why yet but I will investigate further
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Any reason in particular you want to add VSS ...... perhaps your trying to add in system restore points...personally I wouldn't suggest using it
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To the comment about firefox I already made an install now that allows win2k as a base operating system during install so that will no longer be a problem I will go ahead and add an ability to auto update so that users will be able to update via my update packages and this installer is 100% ok I will post a link tomy website soon so that you can access it and possibly put in on the programs list with the other application downloads such as Notepad++ ....
I agree with you on the fact that auto updates would be best to wait until usp 5.2 since it is not that far off from now
As for the explorer just giving some suggestions and actually using a separate explorer would be as easy as adding an exe file to the desktop or the windows directory as well as a theme file during the install and creating short cut to the desktop or even having it be set as a start up program which would also be simple no intensive work would need to be done
As for programming I know quite a bit of C++ and Java both of which would be useful in doing what is needed
Also for anyone interested Utorrent has removed the block on win2k keeping users form installing it now it only gives a warning that it may not function as intended but you are now officially able to install it on win2k again
Well gl again please send me an email at the address i gave you before and I will test the new Daily as soon as its released I will actually think about doing a benchmark for you but it would be much more helpful if the benchmark is done across a few different pc setups if anyone else is willing to go ahead and benchmark the differences with me
Ah just as a note I can not prove it just yet but the Start up time seems to have actually lengthened by a few seconds
I am glad I can help as I said before I admire the work your doing on this USP its really a great thing
As for the start up shutdown button There is an even easier way to add the shutdown restart button without actually changing the look of the classic start menu
I will actually make a tutorial on the method for you so that you can link a quickbar icon as a shutdown option which would be even quicker
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The answer is yes that is definitely possible just as possible as it is on winxp to replace the entire gui or even the entire explorer with a new explorer all of that is possible all the way back to windows 95 editing gui and the explorer are all possible let me do some research and get back to you on the actual details but from the knowledge I have already it would be much better to do so based on your own explorer I know windows blinds did something similar to this with win 98 but it seemed to be a resource hog but with the way win2k handles memory it might not have the same problem but with your own custom explorer so many things could be enhanced
Yes I did some research and yes it can be done in a similar way as it is done in winxp still I suggest a new explorer which would open a vastly new amount of possibilitys for win2k ...as for the graphical abilities of win2k could very well be enhanced but then your getting into the problems of resource hogging which is one reason people love win2k some much it uses such a small amount of resources... ReactOS is based on the 5.X kernel which they took it all the way to creating a brand new OS from scratch so they would have access to the source code and be allowed to release it for free in almost every aspect its identical so your best bet might be able to get involved with the ReactOS Project most of there notes would give you a good way of improving win2k since it is free to use distribute edit or take from to add to your own projects get back to me if your interested in seeing some of there notes
In the middle of testing on a hard drive install everything is great especially the new features its just wonderful as of now I am experiencing no problems what so ever and it is running very smoothly surprisingly enough it seems to run at least twice as efficiently as it did before application response time have even increased and love the TM I will post an update if any problems arise but i have already tested on VM and nothing there so I am not expecting any problems on the hardware install
Re tested graphics and audio drivers as well as gaming with very positive results the fps was raised by 6-10 fps on Skyrim as well as sins of a solar empire, WoW, Oblivion as well as a few other games I have already tested under the new Daily Windows2000-UURollup-v11d120906-x86-ENU I am very surprised at the improvements in responsiveness...as well before svchost was taking up 60-90mb of ram and now is only consuming 9mb at most as a constant very impressive...also tested internet explore again nothing really new to report but stability has remained no crashes on flash movies and games normal resource consumption....regedit is working fine as well as most other tools for some reason dxdiag is crashing out I will take a look into it I am unsure if the install of win2k just had a problem or if it has something to do with an update but games work fine just am unable to run the dxdiag tool without it crashing....shut down and start up speed seems to have improved by a few seconds as well.
It might actually help if you were to develop a system to automatically update installs as well to weekly,daily,stable via web file grabbing seems like that would be very useful I could give you a few pointers if your interested in adding that feature
I can go ahead and help you by making a install package for firefox that includes the "uxtheme.dll" and automatically sets the hardware acceleration to off if your interested in adding a link to it on your programs list
Tried using BWC's dx fix but it was unable to solve the problem strange I did not experience this with the VM I am going to do another fresh install with an alternative install disk and let you know if that fixes the problem....
Tested the Nvidia 3xx drivers and it is working great no problems what so ever so I hope that is good news for you
Doing a reinstall seemed to work to fix the DirectX problem from earlier and now everything is working smoothly with the new daily without a problem in sight
I am completely done with the testing of the new version of the daily uurollup and in my personal opinion it seems to appear you are very close to a new stable release...
Windows 2000 firefox installer is now finished it will include the "uxtheme.dll" in the install dir allowing it to run on first install without any manual editing involved hopefully this should save quite a few people some time when testing firefox on there win2k machine with uurollup as this will require less work on there part to get it working
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Yeah well of course im sure you want to have some boundaries on what you do with usp 5.2 try to do too many things at once and everything will fall apart but separate packages sounds nice.. if have anything else other then testing the dailys that you need help with at any time just send me a pm just want you to know that im here to help if ever needed I know how stressful doing these projects alone can be but with all the support your getting on this thread im sure you feel very appreciated ^_^ the reason I offer my help is because i admire what your doing to keep win2k alive it was and is a great and stable OS which is why the ones developing ReactOS based the UI off of win2k.... Thanks though your helping alot of people out I am working on a win2k project also right now involving web development support as win2k comes with an older less functional version of iis I am trying to work on developing something very simlar to iis but with the added abilitys of new http servers
Just so you know its going to be based of Apache but I will be integrating a iis GUI
If you could email me at godsring3000@yahoo.com every time a new daily is released I will be sure to test it
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Nice really nice bro your doing a great job
Love the new setup you did a great job if you ever need help with anything just let me know
and nice job with the .net installs I will test them out one by one and let you know how well it works btw I had an idea about making a brand new built in firewall for win2k as well as a open source antimalware I know a bit of C++ and Java and alot of php and html as well as data basing with mysql have quite a bit of free time for now until the baby comes in November but would love to help if I could
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Yeah thanks for the reply well hopefully we will be able to find a way to run the new directX's or later on in the future you could think about helping the ReactOS project which essentially is win2k just completely remade without lot of Microsofts crappy coding
As well thanks for answering about the .net installer and the BWC Kernel I was unsure since you said you could install the package over the kernel wither it had everything the kernel had or not
Oh and thanks for adding in the Nvidia drivers for the 5.2 release that will be very helpful maybe you should think about doing an addon for the installer so it can automatically install drivers based on your systems hardware
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Testing asap! I will test on a hard drive and a Virtual Machine as well as replace the files in the old install to see if it will allow restored functionality...
OK! I tested replacing the "srvsvc.dll" & I went ahead and replaced the "mshtmled.dll" everything seems to be working perfectly stable I will continue testing and let you know if there is any crashes....
OK! internet explore is now giving the correct about info which it was not in your previous release and Internet Explore seems to be much more stable no crashes as of yet flash videos are playing smoothly as well...
Firefox is still having visual problems when used with hardware acceleration enabled if possible that would be a very good thing to fix!
Installed BlackWingCats 266.58 Nvidia drivers working perfectly
I tried installing the new BWC Kernel over the new daily install with no problems what so ever and vice verse
Installed audio drivers and they are working perfectly
Question:"Is it possible you can provide the all in one .net installer so that I may test that also"
OK! was testing around and attempted to use wind3d does not work and thought I would suggest implementing your own type of directx that will allow directx versions not supported by Microsoft for older os's on win2k such as dx10 and 11...
Finished testing without any problems what so ever which I am glad to report!! =)
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I tried the install with your latest daily Windows2000-UURollup-v11d120903-x86-ENU over an install of your stable release v10c ENU and it worked almost perfectly expect when booting up it gives a s***down error message giving you 1 minute to finish your work because "services.exe" unexpectedly crashed and it will restart a program called sc.exe ran afterwards and poped up as a command prompt window which i closed as it stay upon for half the time and then it booted to the desktop before it rebooted and you were able to interact with the desktop and star menus before the reboot this was on an actual hardrive pc install not a VM
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Unofficial SP 5.2 for Microsoft Windows 2000 (WIP)
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That is an awesome find