The general idea of a BLUE Screen of Death is that it should be blue. And, if it is a 0x0000007b it will have 0x0000007b displayed in white on it. So, no, if it is a black hanging screen it is a BHS (Black Hanging Screen) and is not a BSOD. It reminds me more of a timing problem of some kind or a problem/conflict with loading a driver than anything else, maybe you should try on that machine to make a USB stick WITHOUT the whole mass of the driverpacks, adding only, if needed, the single mass storage driver that machine needs. It is also possible that that stoopid machine, being a DELL has one of those pesky BIOSes that have appeared lately to e incomaptibloe with a good half of "advanced" booting programs/techniques, there are a lot of reports lately of grub4dos freezing on DELL machines, though if you get up to "setup is starting windows" it shouldn't be the problem. Another semi-random attempt may be that of using PLoP as an intermediate bootloader, reloading from it the USB device: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html Do BOTH 0.2.3 and Beta 1.0.x behave the same? The two versions use a different approach.... jaclaz Jaclaz- Thanks for the help, I will try out some of your suggestions. I have only tried with 1.0b4 and b5 but not 0.2.3. I tried using Plop to boot from USB, but it seems to hang loading up Grub4dos (CMain loading...???). I will also try with just the E6400 driver and not the driverpack... Thanks for your help Fizz