[Install from alternate source device]

hi every one....

I am a "BIG" fan of MSFN.

I just want to know that can we install windows xp "UNATTENDLY" without having Cd-rom and floppy. I mean just by using the Previously Backuped I386 folder and some initial booting device like Usb Memory..... i am aware of all the complications of windows xp unattended installation i have been searching from the last two months but did not find any direct artical for this situation..........

Plz Let me know !

If you mean run the windows setup/install using a usb (memeory stick) with unatended settings through nlite for example then yes it should work. afaik.

I have done it.

Hope this helps,

[i need to delete/copy 2 files to another destination]

The pushd and popd were used to move me to a location and return me to my start point again after running the deletion. The same task could have been performed without that addition thus:

del "%systemroot%\system32\1.ext" "%systemroot%\system32\2.ext"

It appears that you are trying to create something which is making a smaller OS source. If this is the case and you are removing OS files you may need to use:

DEL /F /A [file(s)]

Yes i do somtimes use those options (force delete of read only files and the attribute option)

Thanks once again you have been a major help,

[i need to delete/copy 2 files to another destination]

pushd %systemroot%\system32
 del 1.ext 2.ext
 popd

Dear Yzöwl,

Do you mean to say this will do what i wanted and secondly how?

What is that push part is that an option of the del command or another command?

Thanks a mil,

PS.I'm not sure if you've heard of the application i am creating but you will be featured (with your permission) along with all the others who have helped.

[A Little Problem,]

Ok most of you probarly know of me and my project.

Well the removal parts quite easy but as expected the re-intergrating is more difficult.

Heres my problem, When the user chosses to reintergrate any component etc he/she will be give the option to download the neccesary files or have them intergrated using the disk (full/all files).

If they choose to use the disk my app will make use of the expand command (even if the user doesn't have it on the system it will be embedded or available via download). So farso good but say they choose to re-intergrate the service "COM+ Event System & COM+ System Application" (as i call it) know that means my program intergrates the files using the ex[pand command into the system32 folder and will also use this:

sc config start= demand

sc start

to start the service etc.

But the service "COM+ Event System & COM+ System Application" also uses a folder named "Com" in %systemroot%\system32\Com

so my app makes the folder using the "mk" command but what abut the files inside i know i can use the expand command but how will i:

1. know exactly what files belong here (i have an idea)

Where will i:

Get them from, (are they on the disk?)

Cheers in advance,

PS. also there is a file named emptyregdb.dat which is not on the disk so how do i get about this?

[i need to delete/copy 2 files to another destination]

QED, you just need to handle them one at a time like so:

copy %userprofile%\Desktop\1 %SystemRoot%\system32
 copy %userprofile%\Desktop\2 %SystemRoot%\system32

And then to delete:

del %SystemRoot%\system32\1
 del %SystemRoot%\system32\2

Yes thats true, its just it says you can do it for multiple files i assumed that meant something similar to the above (my example).

Thanks for the reply (has helped clear up this matter),

[Nlite, copying files from cd to empty folder.]

Ok i know exactly which files arent present (arent copied).

perf009.dat

per_intr.swf

per_nav.swf

per_seg1.swf

per_seg2.swf

per_seg1.txt

per_seg3.swf

Cheers,

PS.Another thing this is a genuine unchanged/edited copy of xp home edition.

I was wondering also where i might aqquire these missing files as i can't copy them.

[Removing a Directory/Folder,]

i haven't heard or read the registry import actually working but then i am not even sure what gets imported to the registry to help with the activation.

kk thanks for your reply,

PS.It isn't really any worry as i do not use that perticular line of code anyway (as i dont import anything to the registry) i was just curious as to what it might be.

[i need to delete/copy 2 files to another destination]

I have 2 files (1 & 2) on the desktop and want to copy them to system32:

I am trying this - copy 1 + 2 %systemroot%\system32

but its not working.

I would also like to do the same but removing 2 files: So

del %systemroot%\system32\ 1 2.

i know that this is wrong;can anyone show me where i'm going wrong and the correct way(s).

Thanks,

PS.It doesn't matter if the file has an extension or not;that is to say if you give me an example you can add an extension to the files if you want.

[Batch File To Stop Services Etc.]

If you want to also kill any process, you can use

taskkill

you can type

taskkill /?

for more options

Thanks for that one. Has come in usefull already.

[Nlite, copying files from cd to empty folder.]

Sorry all,

My mistake "per_seg.swf"

Thanks for the replies,

[Removing a Directory/Folder,]

Then i saw the very same script (give or take a little) on another forum (might've been this one) but that one had an extra line of code:

%SYSTEMROOT%\REGEDIT.EXE /S activate.reg

the thing i can't undestand is what this does (exactly) i mean i know what the commands do;but not regarding the registry.

This command imports a file named "activate.reg" silently into your Registry.

Dear arie,

I knew that was what it would normally do but i never reliased that (synax) would work.

So thanks for your reply,

Ps. i was wondering wether you knew what reg file that would be. (or which part of the registry needs editing etc)

[Nlite, copying files from cd to empty folder.]

I know why this is and it isn't the first time either. The disk is scratched.

The cd (full version - all files) is 556mb the folder (xp) on my desktop where the copied files are is only 456mb.

Now obviously i need to make a new (full) disk, but i cant because the files wont copy (well not all of them).

I do however have a clue as to what files they are:

1. when i install from an nlited disk that had its files copied from the scratched disk it (during the copying files part) asks for something like "perf" and i know at least one of these "perf" files has an .swf extension.

There is only about 4 files missing afaik but these perf ones are quite big.

What i would like to know is; is there a way that i can compare the disk and the copied files to see which files are missing.

Also is there a place i could get the missing files? eg internet.

[Removing a Directory/Folder,]

don't worry about it........u knew it but just need a refresher.........i still need a refresher from time to time.........

Thats true,

I was wondering if you might be able to help me also;i wrote this batch script to copy the wpa files (backed up - activated state) to system32. (and rename the ones in system32).

Here is the script:

@echo off

ren %SYSTEMROOT%\system32\wpa.dbl wpa.dbl.nonactivated

xcopy a:\wpa.bak %SYSTEMROOT%\system32\wpa.bak /q

xcopy a:\wpa.dbl %SYSTEMROOT%\system32\wpa.dbl /q

%SYSTEMROOT%\REGEDIT.EXE /S activate.reg

EXIT

Then i saw the very same script (give or take a little) on another forum (might've been this one) but that one had an extra line of code:

%SYSTEMROOT%\REGEDIT.EXE /S activate.reg

the thing i can't undestand is what this does (exactly) i mean i know what the commands do;but not regarding the registry.

Any help appreciated; Thanks again,

[Removing a Directory/Folder,]

how about:

RD /S /Q

Yes thanks m8.

I must be slacking as now you mention it i reliase i knew it; /s (removes tree) /q (no prompt).

Thanks again,

[Batch File To Stop Services Etc.]

I was wondering if anyone new how to stop and disable a service using a batch script.

I know you can delete, view etc usinc the "sc" command but i'm unsure if this can be used to disable a service.

NET STOP "ServiceName"

Another thing regarding batch files and command line programs (shutdown, sc, user etc) say i want to use shutdown.exe but i do not have it in my "system32" folder but i do have a copy of it on my memeory stick (e:\) can i point to it using a batch file.

If the file is in the same folder as the batch script, there is no need to specify the path to the file. If the file is not in the same folder as the batch script and the path to the file cannot change, you could simply launch it via START. For options, launch START /?. If the path can change, which is the case with most USB sticks as they're plug and play, you could alter the CD-ROM drive discovery script to always point at the correct USB drive. See the Unattended Guide here for the script.

Wow thanks Arie,

I completly forgot about the "net stop" command although i have never used this one anyway.

But i will use this now, also i was wondering what the "net.exe" files main function is i have looked at tye help part using "cmd" it looks like it has multiple functions.

Also i am aware of the "net1.exe" file and was wondering whether this has anything to do with the "net.exe" file.

Thanks for all of the information you have supplied me,

PS. I am under the impression you know your batch files and commands, i was wondering if you would be able to help:

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=109578 - removing a non empty directory.

[Removing a Directory/Folder,]

I know that the following can remove empty directorys:

RD

RMDIR

But i am uncertain on how to remove a direcory that is not empty; that is to say a directory containing files, other folders etc.

Thanks,

PS.I am a pretty good batch creator etc (well getting there).

[Batch File To Stop Services Etc.]

I was wondering if anyone new how to stop and disable a service using a batch script.

I know you can delete, view etc usinc the "sc" command but i'm unsure if this can be used to disable a service.

Thanks.

Another thing regarding batch files and command line programs (shutdown, sc, user etc) say i want to use shutdown.exe but i do not have it in my "system32" folder but i do have a copy of it on my memeory stick (e:\) can i point to it using a batch file.

eg:

cd e: shutdown.exe (variables/options here).

Thanks again,

[oobe / I.E. / media player]

hello,

i bought a RETAIL version of XP PRO SP1 which i want to slipstream to SP2, adding RVMpack and

customize to my needs for a DAW system.

With my previous nlite cd from a VLK XP PRO cd, i removed internet explorer completely and i also removed oobe.

I never have any problems with this installation and never had any activation issue but i noticed that even with my portable Firefox on a usb stick i'm not able to acces the internet (which i didn'n needed).

However, with the system i want to setup now i will need temporarly acces to the internet to registrate some programs but I don't need I.E. , i prefer to use portable Firefox on a usb stick for this.

something else i noticed, in my previous nlitecd (already 2 years ago) i could remove/keep some windows media codecs but now i don't see this option anymore. Is this now part of the acm core codecs?

as far as i can remember i removed all codecs, windows media player and also the classic media player and manually

added wmasf and wmvcore, real alternative and some divx codecs later (i remember before i have got a error in Soundforge complaining about some missing codecs). Now I'm thinking to keep acm core codecs but remove

windows media player (incl classic) but i'm not sure if i need to keep mediaplayer compatibility?

my questions:

(1) Do i need to keep oobe with a XP PRO RETAIL VERSION and do i need to activate it online or so ?

(2) Can i remove IE Explorer completely or should i keep the IE core to acces the internet with firefox portable

(or for oobe compatibility) ? (I ASSUME I'TS BEST TO MARK ETHERNET DHCP FUNCTIONALITY ?!)

(3) when removing media player (incl classic) but keep acm cored codecs do i need mediaplayer compatibility for

anything?

regards.

j.

Dear jonathanc,

OOBE is not required in order to use the "validate online" feature.

If you are running/have a genuine version of xp pro (SP1 or Sp2) then you remove of oobe, but if you were (educational purposes) going to need to change the product key (if the copy of xp was pirated - and did not pass validation) then you would need oobe to run the activation wizard.

Another thing;

I'm not sure wether you were aware of this (AFAIK) but if you are running xp pro - and dont validate it, it wont lock you out after 30 days.

[IECore & Activation?]

Once you activate two files end up in Windows\System32, wpa.bak and wpa.dbl. It's mentioned (on the net) that backing up these two files and then copying them in to System32 on the new install should avoid having to activate. However, I've recently tried this with my unattended setup (by putting the files into $OEM$\$\system32 on the UA disc) but it's still trying to activate. It is supposed to be possible though.

Here's some info on it.

As I suspected another article only mentions needing to backup wpa.dbl (not the .bak which is probably a backup, duh!).

UPDATE: After reading this myself it seems you have to copy the files once you've cancelled the question asking to activate so either the files get overwritten or it asks for activation regardless. I'll check tomorrow to see if it is actually activated. Don't want to have to reboot into safe mode!

Thanks for your reply,

I have tried this method several time useing several different "mehods" etc, but the activation process/wizard still needs to be ran in order for online validation to work; without validation the pc will still be locked after 30 days and if the user removed oobe then there would be no way to activate thus rendering the pc useless.

[What happens if oobe is removed,]

Thanks for the replies,

Oh and yes as i already stated "for educational purposes".

Thanks again,

[What happens if oobe is removed,]

I am only asking for an educational purpose.

If by using nlite i remove ie, iecore, oobe and any files associated with activation what would happen?

After 30 days would it still shut me out?

Just wondering,

[IECore & Activation?]

I,ve had a new idea,

Yes i'm still trying to find a way to remove IECore (using nlite) whilst still being able to activate the pc. <--- Xp Home Edition.

Sadly i still haven't been able to acomplish this tiresome task, even though i have tried numerous things.

Iv'e tried intergrating the wpa key onto the disk, but then i can't validate online as it says i need to activate first.

Tried to just remove IECore and leave oobe, but as i already knew - no success there.

Tried using other browsers

Tried associating the files to different programs, browsers etc

Tried a few other ways aswell.

I do believe this is possible, yet im just unable to find out how.

My idea is,

I know that once IECore is removed, after install there is no way (yet) to activate but what if there was a way to do it whilst installing or on first run maybe.

I saw a post i think it was on this forum; to intergrate activation files on to the disk.

Has anyone got any other ideas?

I really really apreciate any help/ideas,

[Remove msmail and mapi.]

I was just wondering if it would be possible o add certain files to the "keep" box in nlite so that i could remove msmail and mapi; whilst still being able to install wlm.

Also i just thought, it would be kwl if ppl could list any others that they know. I'll start:

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TCP/IP printing still works without SNMP, however I've found that these two files must be kept (or SNMP):

Mgmtapi.dll

Wsnmp32.dll

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[Not exactly nlite - maxthon and oobe.]

mitsukai,

Tanks for your reply but you have misunderstood me. I am making an application similar to nlite and i need/want to see if its possible to activate XP Home without iecore.

Cheers,

i was replying to nuhi next time read quote.

Darn,

sincere apologies.

I did read qoute (as always) i just made a mistake thats all.

Cheers,

PS.Even though you were replying to nuhi, you have given me an idea.

[Not exactly nlite - maxthon and oobe.]

mitsukai,

Tanks for your reply but you have misunderstood me. I am making an application similar to nlite and i need/want to see if its possible to activate XP Home without iecore.

Cheers,