baliktad Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Dos boot disks were once the only way to kick off a network install. However, as many of you noticed, this involves a VERY slow file copy process. Smartdrive does speed things up significantly but still nowhere near optimal performance.Microsoft has listened to OEM requests (namely, that many systems don't ship with floppy drives anymore, and installs are slow and error-prone) and provided a new solution to replace Dos boot disks: Windows Preinstallation Environment, or WinPE for short.WinPE is the modern equivalent of a Dos boot disk. It's a stripped down version of Windows that boots from a CD-ROM into a windowed environment with a command prompt. I cannot express how fantastic WinPE is. First and foremost, you get a native 32 bit network stack and the same NTFS driver Windows uses. This means that installs are fast, fast, FAST. My unattended installs went from 45+ minutes to less than 15.Unfortunately, WinPE is not free, although Bart has made a toolset available that will allow you to create a functionally equivalent "BartPE" disc. I highly recommend checking it out and reading up on the WinPE forum here at MSFN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grisensko Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Hi, thx for your answer but i still need some help.-JohnGrugh ... i tried with the t switch and i still have the same problem .... win xp do not see my ntfs partition, i tried in fat32 and it<s ok ... but my file in $oem$ are copied but some are too long and are rename with a ~1 ... etc.. so many of my driver/script fail to install.i<ll might try bart modboot today-baliktad... I tried using BartPE method .... i got my bartcd to work everything is fine ... i thing ... but when i enter in PE environnement ... i need to install windows ... i map a drive z: the lauch my install.bat (\i386\winnt.exe /s:\i386 /u:\I386\winnt.sif) but i got an error saying than winnt is not a win32 valid application i dont want to install from setup ... i want my unattended install to work alonePs: Sorry for my bad english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahi Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 When you boot with BartPE or WinPE, you need to use Winnt32.exe to start Windows installation. Example:winnt32.exe /unattend1:C:\local\unattend.txt /s:c:\local\source\i386 /udf:%computername%,Z:\unique.udb /syspart:c: /tempdrive:c: /debug4:c:\local\debug.log /noreboot /copysource:lang /dudisablerem To restart PC: kill nu2 to restart from BartPE. "Exit" restarts WinPEif "%RamDrv%"=="B:" pskill.exe nu2menu.exe exitAvailable command line options are explained in Winnt32.hlp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grisensko Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Hmmm ... thx alot for the fast answer .... that was a stupid question Sorry but i have anoter one ; now i get an error : Winnt32.hlp not found .... but Winnt32.hlp is there in the same folder ... i have never touched itthx in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahi Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Double-click it in Windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telenut Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Run the setup using: \i386\winnt.exe /s:\i386 /u:\I386\winnt.sifStrange, I don't have a winnt.exe in that folder Guess nLite deletes this files (found them on a original winXP SP1 CD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWood Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Hi guys, I read the post and I did all following your instructions but I'm prompted by the following error after the setup has been launched:Windows XP requires a hard drive volume with at least 2046 megabytes of free disk space. [...omissis...]Setup cannot continue. Press Enter to exit.Ok, but I've created and formatted using gdisk a 4 giga fat 16 partition labelled C:, so there's plenty of space...where could be my mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baliktad Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 FAT16? Why? If you're installing XP, use at least FAT32, preferably NTFS. No need to use gdisk - diskpart and format should take care of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarl57 Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Be carefull , when you use network installation you have two contraint :1) long file name on $OEM$ , windows process copy with winnt.exe doent use long file name 2) space on c: drive , if your $OEM$ folder size are more what 2046 Gb winnt.exe indicate you have not space on c: driveSolutions :1) rename the files on the bacth file on runonce2) use a share drive to stock your application or use a d: drive to copy the applicationregards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWood Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Ok, thanks, so what should I do exactly intead of using a gdisk command?Furthermore my $oem$ is 1,50 gb size, the whole installation is 2,3 gb size and (to be honest) I didn't care about the 8.3 DOS files rule, but my setup doesn't start it stops once it performs the first check on the c: drive.With gdisk I used the following syntax:gdisk 1 /y /del /all it deletes on the 1 drive all partitions gdisk 1 /y /cre /pri /-32 /sz:2047 /for /q it create one primary partition and then format it as fat16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWood Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 I forgot to mention that I also tried formatting a 4096 mbytes partition with FAT32 filesystem without any success, windows setup still prompt me that there's not enough space on the hard drive the following is the syntax used:gdisk 1 /y /cre /pri /x /sz:4096 /for /q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWood Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Ok guys, I've made a couple of attempts,now, still using gdisk , I'm able to launch setup but I'm still obtaining the same **** error, that's what I'm doing:I have a first batlh smartdrvgdisk 1 /y /del /all gdisk 1 /y /cre /pri /for /q Then I have a C: drive with a FAT32 partition (not too bad, isn't? especially if I will convert later on an NTFS partition)After that step I launch a second batch on my mapped network drive:\i386\winnt.exe /s:\i386 /u:\i386\unattend.txt But all that I can obtain is an annoying error which tells me that I don't have enough space...the important thing is that if I launch from i386 winnt.exe WITHOUT any parameter it works and it starts the installation!!! Obviously is not my preferred behaviuor since I want an unattended setup ...ideas??? Suggestions? Now I'm at a no-return point.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWood Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Now it's a sort of diary...anyway I've found my mistake (it was just a blank space) and I corrected so it seems that the installation has been launched but I have a couple of errors during the setup, it seems that it soesn't read my unattend.txt, I will continue tomorrow, now I' m tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telenut Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Is it a FullUnattended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWood Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Yes, it is, although it has perfectly worked with my DVD, now I guess that I should correct some mistake or something else, anyway I'll let you know P.S. I also have an horrible suspect, since I made in my original unattended some add-on using Nlite I guess that the program has changed something since during the graphical part of the setup I'm prompted for a couple of files missing...any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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