installation of removed components

[mav]

hi, almost a year ago a installed a lited version of winxp. amongst the removed components there was the "midi support", now i need it. is there any way to install that component? if not, is it possible to restore a lited version of winxp with another lited winxp that includes that component without formatting and all?

sorry for my bad english and thanks a lot

[johnhc]

hi, almost a year ago a installed a lited version of winxp. amongst the removed components there was the "midi support", now i need it. is there any way to install that component? if not, is it possible to restore a lited version of winxp with another lited winxp that includes that component without formatting and all?

sorry for my bad english and thanks a lot

mav, restoring removed components is a tough one. In general, removed components cannot be restored. Please do this: Search your original source files for *midi* and post a screen shot of the results. Do this also for your nLited source folder. And please attach (not paste) your Last Session.ini. I know of no way to escape reformatting if we cannot help, maybe someone does. Enjoy, John.

[mav]

here my "last session.ini"

when i run dxdiag, in the music tab, when i run the test "Test DirectSound" i can't hear anything, even if it gives me "Test passed". i suppose it's due to the midi support that i removed, am i right? (it's not a volume problem)

Please do this: Search your original source files for *midi* and post a screen shot of the results. Do this also for your nLited source folder.

I don't know what this does mean, could you explain me exactly what i have to do?

Thanks for helping

Ultima Sessione.ini

Edited July 9, 2010 by mav

[johnhc]

here my "last session.ini"

when i run dxdiag, in the music tab, when i run the test "Test DirectSound" i can't hear anything, even if it gives me "Test passed". i suppose it's due to the midi support that i removed, am i right? (it's not a volume problem)

Please do this: Search your original source files for *midi* and post a screen shot of the results. Do this also for your nLited source folder.

I don't know what this does mean, could you explain me exactly what i have to do?

Thanks for helping

mav, I ran the dxdiag - please see the attach screen shots. I heard music for all three of the options - did not remove midi. I assume you hear nothing from any. I also assume that other audio works on your machine. If not true, please let us know. I do not know if removing midi is causing your problems. A screen shot is attached of a search for *midi*. Right click the folder containing your source files/folders and click Search. Type *midi* as in the screen shot and click search. You should get results similar to mine (at least on the original source). Please do both the original and the nLite modified one. Post a screen shot of both. From your Last Session.ini it looks like you have run nLite multiple times against the same source. This is not a good idea and sometimes leads to strange symptoms. Always start with a fresh copy of your CD files/folders and run nLite only one time doing all your work. Enjoy, John.

[mav]

ok here are my screenshots:

from my running windows:

from BOTH my nlited and not-nlited xp cd install

yes i hear nothing from any. in the "notes" below there's written:

- Nessun file General MIDI DLS specificato nel Registro di sistema.

- Risultati del test di DirectMusic: Test riusciti.

translation:

- no General MIDI DLS file specified in the system registry. (or something like that)

- DirectMusic test results: all tests were successful.

yes the other audio works on my machine (test in dxdiag on audio tab (not music) is fine). yes i ran nlite multiple times, but the previous ones i only added the update packs and didn't remove anything. i removed components only at the end and all together.

[johnhc]

mav, thanks for the screen shots but they confuse me. The one on the running system show the same files as on my system but you show none of the files in either the original CD or the nLited one. Where did the files come from - beats me? The idea of searching for *midi* was just a guess by me and may be a bad one. Since your running system has all these files, perhaps they have nothing to do with your problem. One thought I have is to use another application for midi files. A quick Google search turned up many including this free one. You might try this or another one you find. You can at least remove them via Add/Remove if they don't help. I would suggest that you create a System Restore point before installing them. I did notice that you searched for *midi* in one case and midi in the other. Try both again and with both search arguments and if you get different results, please post a screen shot. Enjoy, John.

EDIT: If the file midisoft.ini is not too large, please attach it. Thanks.

Edited July 9, 2010 by johnhc

[mav]

ok, i solved the problem, or at least a part of it.

it seems like i missed the file gm.dls (it's probably the general midi dls file dxdiag mentioned) in c:\windows\system32\drivers. i searched for "gm.dl_" in both nlited and not-nlited versions of my installation cd and it wasn't there O_o bho... anyway, i found it in an old XP cd, i expanded it (expand gm.dl_ gm.dls) and put it in c:\windows\system32\drivers. dxdiag keeps giving me the previous message and i still can't hear anything in the "test directsound" but i can finally hear the midi files with wmp.

tnz a lot for everything

PS: i don't think there's any difference in searching with or without *

Edited July 9, 2010 by mav

[johnhc]

ok, i solved the problem, or at least a part of it.

it seems like i missed the file gm.dls (it's probably the general midi dls file dxdiag mentioned) in c:\windows\system32\drivers. i searched for "gm.dl_" in both nlited and not-nlited versions of my installation cd and it wasn't there O_o bho... anyway, i found it in an old XP cd, i expanded it (expand gm.dl_ gm.dls) and put it in c:\windows\system32\drivers. dxdiag keeps giving me the previous message and i still can't hear anything in the "test directsound" but i can finally hear the midi files with wmp.

tnz a lot for everything

PS: i don't think there's any difference in searching with or without *

mav, in certain cases there will be a difference with and without the *. My copy of gm.dls is in the C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc folder (XP x64). I suggest you place a copy there and see if that helps. Or better, look in your Registry at key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectMusic for GMFilePath. This will tell you where gm.dls is expected to be found. Have you updated DirectX lately? If not, I suggest you go to Windows Update and get the latest (directx_Jun2010_redist.exe). Glad to help and am glad at least WMP is working for you. Enjoy, John.

[mav]

ok, little by little it gets better. i updated my directx. i thought i aready had the latest version since i have the automatic updates enabled bho...

anyway, now i can hear the sound for the second and third voice but not the first one (Microsoft Synthesizer). besides i don't have in my whole registry the voice Gmfilepath you mentioned. that's probably why a still get from dxdiag the error "No General MIDI DLS file was specified in the registry"

EDIT: ok i manually inserted that missing piece of my registry

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectMusic]
"GMFilePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\SYSTEM32\\DRIVERS\\GM.DLS"

and now it works just fine. tnz a lot johnhc, you were really helpful

Edited July 9, 2010 by mav

[johnhc]

ok, little by little it gets better. i updated my directx. i thought i aready had the latest version since i have the automatic updates enabled bho...

anyway, now i can hear the sound for the second and third voice but not the first one (Microsoft Synthesizer). besides i don't have in my whole registry the voice Gmfilepath you mentioned. that's probably why a still get from dxdiag the error "No General MIDI DLS file was specified in the registry"

EDIT: ok i manually inserted that missing piece of my registry

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectMusic]
"GMFilePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\SYSTEM32\\DRIVERS\\GM.DLS"

and now it works just fine. tnz a lot johnhc, you were really helpful

mav, great! A little hacking here and little there and even a blind pig finds an acorn every now and then, and it was fun - teaching me something. Enjoy, John!

BTW, DirectX will not be updated by Windows Update.