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[herbalist]

Firefox, Seamonkey and the latest, shortly revived from death Netscape, are all Mozilla under the hood. Win9x support for Firefox3 is gone already so fear the future for your Seamonkey.

Looks like that you haven't read yet this thread :

http://www.msfn.org/board/UberKern-t115731.html

Sure I did But that's not official support. Latest KernelEx does nice things too. But also very beta and unofficial, no guarantees. Not good for the common user.

9X users fall into 2 categories:

1, Those who use 9X because they want to.

2, Those who don't have a choice.

Neither describes the "common user". Most of us here fit the first category. We'll be fine with or without vendor support. Those of us who use Mozilla browsers have no reason to "fear the future" even if 9X support disappears from the next version. Even if Uberkern doesn't work, it's not that big of a problem. The last supported version will work just fine for a long time to come. We're all doing fine without any support for the OS itself. It won't be any different with a browser.

The security concerns that come with using an older browser version are not that hard to deal with. 9X users will have to adapt to not having AV support. Rethinking their security strategy as it relates to their browser will have to be part of that. Those who choose to (or have to) keep using 9X have to move beyond being a "common user" and provide their own support and security.

Rick

[noguru]

Herbalist, there is truth in what you say but unlike what you think I do know some " common Win98 users" . I maintain their computer. They don't understand what you are talking about, and let me tell you, they don't care. Overhere on MSFN the common user is probably not very common but MSFN is not the real world.

[BenoitRen]

Don't be oversensitive. Geek is right, your standard solution for any IE related issue/problem is "get SeaMonkey"

Wrong. My standard solution for IE-related issues is "use another web browser". And I actually have a very good reason for that that's not based on fanboyism.

And it's very well possible that win95 support is fixed in the stable version.

Probably not, since there has been no Win95 support for several stable versions.

[noguru]

And it's very well possible that win95 support is fixed in the stable version.

Probably not, since there has been no Win95 support for several stable versions.

Where you get that??

Win95 is still supported according to Opera. However, Win98 is recommended.

http://www.opera.com/support/search/view/386/

[herbalist]

Herbalist, there is truth in what you say but unlike what you think I do know some " common Win98 users" . I maintain their computer. They don't understand what you are talking about, and let me tell you, they don't care. Overhere on MSFN the common user is probably not very common but MSFN is not the real world.

I also take care of a few 98 users. 98 used to be a large percentage of the computers I maintained but now there's only a few.

Other than taking over the support for the few we know, there's little we can really do for the majority of 9X users. The people here have put together all kinds of projects that can improve 9X boxes but what's the chances that the common user will ever find out about them? If the common 9X user isn't fortunate enough to find someone to do it for them, they either have to learn to do it themselves or move to an OS that has official support. Sooner or later, they'll realize that a computer is like every other complex piece of equipment. It requires maintenance to keep running. In that respect, 9X units are like older cars. The owner can do it themselves if they'll take the time to learn a few basics. Like an old car, 9X units can get very temperamental if they don't get that care.

This does open up possibilities for anyone inclined to do so. There's a wide open market for remote administration of these older units.

Rick

[BenoitRen]

Where you get that??

Win95 is still supported according to Opera.

Uhh, right from this post in this thread?

Last version of Opera supported under Win95 is 9.2x.

[Mijzelf]

...and the last Opera version so far is 9.27, so W95 is supported.

[BenoitRen]

Oh, so they jumped version numbers? My mistake.