Wow! I must have missed that!! Thank you laura!! As for the TV tuner part, there are several components to the WinTV PVR 150 These are: Decoder, drivers, Infrared, infraredblaster, tv scheduler, tv application. All have updated software that they expect you to install one by one. Oh well. The other problems I have are to do with administrative installs of Corel Draw 12 and Office 2000 Premium