That's where I am, too. This is really disappointing because I have a version of WMP8 installed on my Win2k system and I LOVE watching DVD on it. The full-screen feature is exactly what I want in a DVD player. Fang-- Since you're a tester, if you have any contacts on the "inside," suggest that they allow us paying customers to be allowed to use the product, please. Thanks, all, for all the help and suggestions. If nothing else, I'm a little smarter. And hey, isn't that what the internet is all about?