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Thought I'd share this with all: There's a program already available frrom Microsoft (that you already have) that will do it! http://www.emarkay.com/win98se/windowstimezone

Email sent. I am going to reinstall Win98SE again (new HDU) and so I am going to"play" with a few tips, tricks, and files beforehand. Just a FYI. MRK

Thanks. As for links, I don't want to draw the ire and wrath of Mr. Gates. They are easy to Google, and there's a Japanese site that has just about all of them - another rather easy Google find. Will look over these tomorrow, but remember I omitted the ones that were replaced by newer ones, and ignored IE and Outlook and other "peripheral" programs. Also tried to stay specifically to 98SE. BTW, your site was a big help and an inspiration. MRK

Yea you may be right - obviously I added this one "on the fly" today. Looks like there IS no Win98/ME patch yet. Thanks! Iinfo: mf3216.dll.....32-bit to 16-bit Metafile Conversion DLL Data sources: http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=994 http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/212 http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/archive-122005.html http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/181038 http://www.ciac.org/ciac/bulletins/q-085.shtml MRK

Finished! See page here for comments and corrections: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=67765 Direct link: http://www.emarkay.com/win98se/windowsupdatedata.html MRK

I did the best I could. I found about 10 helpul websites (a few from this site's contributors) and a bunch of other Googles, as well as some archival digging. Note that any if an update replaced a previous, I DON'T show the original, and also, this is fundamantally for the OS only, with little or no info on Office, Outlook, etc... http://www.emarkay.com/win98se/windowsupdatedata.html Hope this is useful. MRK

NEVER MIND, For I found this: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=61749&st=20 But still need that mystery file data, and All those updated DLL files - how do you "know" that they are going to function - where did you learn that they could be updated, and from where did you get them? Thanks!

I am not trying to reinvent the wheel, but I do want to better understand this unofficial 98SE SP2 patch. I have tried, and cannot locate a list of the 'official' MS updates in order, so I am creating my own, with the following fields: Location, KB Number, MS Document, Description Date, Filename and MIsc. So far I have 57 files, from: 168115, 99-052, Legacy Credential Cache Update, 11-99 to 912929, 06-001, Windows-Graphics Update, 05-06 This way I can cross reference all the updates to 98SE. I also am adding the file updates (Direct X9.0c, DUN14_SE.EXE, etc.), I have 6 so far. One of the windows update files I CAN NOT identify, is the "December 22, 1999 Update". That's all I have but it's a legit Windows Update addition. Anyone have a clue as to what this is? When I get this done I will put it on my webpage for all to see. I have a few more sources to look at, and then by this weekend I will study it and post it. I also have ALL the files available, so when MS discontinues supportt later this year I will have the files. What other types of thing make up this patch. You don't have to tell me "trade secrets", but let me know what things besides the official MS patches have you included. I presume a few WIN ME files have been tested to work with 98SE, but I really don't see a convincing reason to research and test them. (Any comments on that?) I am looking for stability, not speed, and simplicity not "gee whiz".. Thanks! MRK

I have it installed but disabled when loading the SESP2. (I disconnect from the Internet while installing). I have firewall/AV installed and ENABLED when connected to the 'Net, including getting the MS Windows Updates. Never noticed a problem before. Maybe I should get the 'hard copies ' of all the MS Update files (see previous list) and then I won't need to be connected. IN THAT CASE - DO I LOAD THE MS updated BEFORE I load the 98SESP2 or AFTER??? Thanks for replies! MRK

Correst what I have is: Bios is the A09 - 01/24/2003 Description: Optiplex GX110 A09 FlashBIOS Latest listed. Chipset is: Z0377C01chipset.exe Intel 800 Series Integrated Chipset, Driver, Windows 95, Windows 98, English, Multi System, v. 2.00, A01 Release Date: 09/20/1999 Description: Intel 810 Chipset A01 and is supplanted by thest newest Intel files: infinst_enu - intel chipset driver v631007.exe Ver:5.1.1.1002 Date:12/12/2003 Size:1713 (KB) OS:Windows Server* 2003, Windows* 2000, Windows* 98 SE, Windows* Me, Windows* XP Home Edition, Windows* XP Professional and iaa23_enu - intel application accelerator v23.exe (1973KB) 2.3 11/13/2002 OS:Windows NT* 4.0, Windows* 2000, Windows* 98, Windows* 98 SE, Windows* Me, Windows* XP Home Edition, Windows* XP Professional When my replacement HDU arrives next week I will install the latest 89SE SP and report on what happens I will install Win98SE, then video driver, then MS Security disc, then Firewall, then Windows Update , then install 98SESP. IS IT OK TO LOAD FIREWALL, video driver, AND WINDOWS UPDATES FIRST BEFORE INSTALLING 98SESP?

OK, well, I need to reinstall everything - I have a bad HDU and a replacement is on the way, SO.... If anyone here wants me to test things, now's the time.... Tell me what, how, where and why and I'll do it. Let me know. MRK

Will look at this issue again - I have the latest Chupset utility as listed on the Intel site. I also finally did get the latest V2.3. 0.2160 IAA and it is solid and working. I had only explorer and systray loaded. I manually ran Norton it to look at something before I rebooted and it gave a small message box error. As for the guide, I have 4.10.222B, not A, and installed in order shown: Windows 98SE, Dell Video driver (to get 256 color mode), MS Security disk (contains IE6 and MS updates to 98SE up to 2/2004), all system drivers (Dell and Intel) and updates, and then DirectX9.0c. I did however have my firewall (Trend Micro PCS 2006 installed BUT DISABLED AND REMOVED FROM MEM when loading the SP) and all 12 (as I recall) new Win Updatees completed. Is there an incompatibility with the SP and and CURRENT windows 98SE Win Updates that would affect if it was installed AFTER these updates are installed? I want to have the system Microsoft "clean" before adding any other programs. Did you get tle hardware list email? MRK

Can that update be uninstalled? Maybe then optionally reinstalled by the SP? Running Prime95 now - so far passed all 380 of the 10K and at 119 of the 12K tests. I have saved my entire System Information data. I emailed it to you via the board email service I have IAA 2.2.2 (2.3, the newest, didn't work) VGA driver 6.7 (the latest), the INF update for the 820 chipset, and the remainder are the newest from Dell, some that may have been superceded by installation from the Intel ones. Do you mean this: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=61749 That's a running diatribe of what to install in what order... or this http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=30818 Just a list of changes to the SP. I may have missed it if it's not any of those (I have reviewed those). IS THERE a 'guide or manual' that at least deatils the files that are changed ans why they are? I also noted that the update crashed Norton System Works 2003, before I rebooted... Like I said, I appreciate the development of this and do want to help. BTW, since MS isgoing to discontinue official support for 98SE, DO get a list of what Windows Updates are applied to your systems. Here's my list. First, the "MS Security CD" from 2004, then these: Security Update, February 13, 2002 (MSXML 4.0) Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 Update, December 22, 1999 Mapped Drives Shutdown Update Windows IDE Hard Drive Cache Package Internet Explorer Navigation Sound Update 816093: Security Update Microsoft Virtual Machine (Microsoft VM) Microsoft GDI+ Detection Tool (KB873374) Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 Series (KB885492) Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891781) Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711) Security Update for Windows 98 (KB888113) Security Update for Windows 98 (KB896358) Security Update for DirectX 9 (KB904706) Security Update for Windows 98 (KB908519) Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB833989) Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (KB837009) Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB905915) MRK

Sorry for the "TFN" comment - I DO understand the B,S&T in 'freeware' type development - a labor of love and devotion - I use Flight Sim a lot and a lot of content is 'homebrewed". And I DO know it's unsupported and it's not possible to test every petmutation of usages. But I guess I just seemed frustrated... BTW, still on the laptop, but I am getting desktop back online as I speak.... Will look at RAM and test it - never had any reasaon to do so. I have the latest Intel drivers, and will confirm so, and FYI get off a email of hardware, and software. I skimmed the manual, yes, but did take the time to study it. Will do so this weekend. I may not want to reload the entire thing, but if you have some ""reversable"" tests you may want to try on this unit, I will do what I can to help so others don't get so bothered... MRK

Well, on the laptop now. Yup, your win98se sp2 trashed my PC again. I had some screen captures, but I can't network in safe mode... First I noticed that not only processor data was gone, but also user information in SYSTEM/PROPERTIES - as well as the handy DEVICE MANAGER!. Your Adaptec ASPI replacements are not up to date! Well, let's see what else can I remember... Who cares, I get the endless loop of CHECKING REGISTRY BSOD and restart - AND I AM NOT CRIPPLING MY DAILY REGISTRY SCAN AND BACKUP with your "fix".. If someone wants to look into this further, fine, I'll give you as much data on my system as I can. But I consider this a FLAWED and DANGEROUS program, and will continue to say so unless proven otherwise. Thanks - for nothing... MRK Well, on the laptop now. Yup, your win98se sp2 trashed my PC again. I had some screen captures, but I can't network in safe mode... First I noticed that not only processor data was gone, but also user information in SYSTEM/PROPERTIES - as well as the handy DEVICE MANAGER!. Your Adaptec ASPI replacements are not up to date! Well, let's see what else can I remember... Who cares, I get the endless loop of CHECKING REGISTRY BSOD and restart - AND I AM NOT CRIPPLING MY DAILY REGISTRY SCAN AND BACKUP with your "fix".. If someone wants to look into this further, fine, I'll give you as much data on my system as I can. But I consider this a FLAWED and DANGEROUS program, and will continue to say so unless proven otherwise. Thanks - for nothing... MRK

Well, it's trashed again... not ascii, but win98se sp2. See post above for details...

Ostrich? Who me [mumbles as sand fills mouth and nose...] ? Consider this thread closed and see here for any updates... http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?act=po...st&f=91&t=65735

I have the IAA installed already. I have been looking at a few things, and decided it may be the 137GB issue on the ascii charactrers. I still don't know what caused the 98SE SP2 probs, but: I need to do a clean install anyway. Will low level format and limit to 125GB (I really don't ned those "extra" gigs anyway) and will test the latest sesp21a (from here) http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=61749 now before I reload - if it is OK here and now, then I will install it tomorrow with the new Win reload. Will see if i crash and burn or go on merryling along like an ostritch... http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=65745&st=10

I recommended to add "SystemReg=0", *not* to add "Backup=0"... This registry problem rarely occurs on the some systems because of the new IO.SYS file (WINBOOT.SYS / Q311561). This update has a problem which is not fixed by Microsoft. A workaround is to add "SystemReg=0" into the MSDOS.SYS. OK another typo - still, "=SystemReg= Scan System Registry modules upon startup - Enabled:Scan Registry = 1 Disabled:Do NOT scan Registry = 0 NOTE: "SystemReg=" are UNDOCUMENTED!" http://www2.acc.chula.ac.th/~montree/msdos.html http://www.computerhope.com/msdossys.htm Why would you NOT want to confirm registry is good by scanning it before each run??? Can't be used with WIN98SE - and then if so this whole point is moot - this topic is about the unofficial WIN98SE SP.... This really looks like 137GB+ disk problem. Petr No, have the 160GB partitioned to 60GB, 60GB, and 40GB.... Well it's moot for a few reasons - I have reinstalled Win98SE, WILL NOT use this SP ever again, and well, it's been a long 2 days. Wish this thing was as good as it used to be... If the author (Mr. C.) wants to discuss this - (I am still intrigued by developing 98SE and keeping it as a prime OS beyond April 2006 when MS support stops) I may be willing to beta test, BUT NOT ON MY PRIMARY PC!

My typo - it's: sesp21a-en_98.exe", and I got it from here: http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html As for old file, see: It's from the same site as above!!! "August 1, 2005 - Unofficial Windows 98 SE Service Pack 2.0.2 is released." That's what I have and it was 16,022 KB in size. THIS IS the "official" forum for these products, isn't it??? It is an Intel 810 chipset, but I have partitioned the drive to a 60, a 60 and a 40 GB volume so the 137 GB limitation is not a factor, correct? And as for backups see previous post MRK

OK, 30 reads and no comment... http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=65735 I should give it a day, but, well,now my ENTIRE main PC is now trashed. One moment it was fine, then I got the BSOD, and then ASCII characters where my autoexec.bat was. DOS booting Scandisk found all sorts of FAT errors, and fixed them, and then I found (after much time) that my SCANREG.INI is also full of ASCII gibberish. So no way to even get a backup registry... So now, I am totally AFU on my primary PC. And who is the complete id*** that said to not backup registries with the SystemReg command? See: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/183603/EN-US/ "A value of 1 (default) causes a backup copy of your registry to be made the first time you start your computer on any given day (determined by the system clock). A value of 0 disables registry backup. NOTE: Disabling registry backup is not recommended. " DID YOU READ THAT TOO??? I am just stunned - both at myself for not doing more research before hand, and,well, all of this. What can be done is that hopefully I get a logical and rational explanation on all of this, and that some effort is made here to prevent such problems from happening again, for not all of us can take the time to reload an OS and all the related programs on a moment's notice. [takes deep breath, shakes head, shuts it all down,and crawls under the covers...]

OK, I have been a computer user since the AppleII (Rember CAT instead of DIR?), and a DOS lover even when most programs migrated to the WFW 3.1 interface. I still know and love the 'tools behind the window', and keep my primary computer Win 98SE. It has been working for years, is maintained like my classic car, and is treated with the respect it deserves - I know Windows is an upside down pyramid to begin with - as unstable as possible, once you start adding things on to it... I recently found this "unofficial 98SE Service Pack" site, and downloaded the previous version (win98se_sp202en.exe) a few months ago. While I didn't notice much improvement, I figured it was prob something Microsoft would have done before abandoning Win98, and was a good idea. OK, now for the problem...A week ago I upgraded to a 160GB HDU, and a HP all-in-one printer, and did a complete reformat, a clean Win98SE install and everything else, and it all went OK. Well, the last thing I had to do was to install the "unofficial 98SE Service Pack", and so I checked the website and got the latest version: "sesp21a-en_98SESP2.exe" It crashed this PC. I got a registry error, then and endless loop of the DOS Microsoft Registry Checker. I pulled out one, then 2 older PC's and started Googling... While trying everything I could thing of, remember and read to try to get this machine to boot - luckily I could OCCASIONALLY get into safe mode... Reading the post: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=65516 made me wonder about the logic of disabling the very thing I was checking for seemed counterintuative, but finally I relented and did just that. I spent 3 hours getting to this point! I have 2 other computers up (an XP and another 98SE) and have just about exhausted my mind, fingers, and patience... There are a few other comments on this, and a few outside comments on these unofficial updates. See for a sample: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=65458 http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=61749 http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?act=ST&f=91&t=52491 What this "solution" does, is to DISABLE REGISTRY CHECKING of profiles! "SystemReg=0 - disables scanning the registry for hardware profiles. Note: can cause some systems to hang." These folks don't think too highly of this: http://computing.net/windows95/wwwboard/forum/158505.html and neither do I! If it worked before, what was changed to make it suck so bad now? What changed so that I have to add "SystemReg=0" now? AND I CAN'T undo this install, can I??? I have 2 OTHER Win98SE computers with the old version that works fine, and, of course, I am NOT going to place this version on them! So, can SOMEONE help me figure out WHY this version causes the registry checker to go into endless loops if this version is installed without any file modifications? I have attached info on this PC in question. It is a Dell Optiplex GX110, with 256MB, Phoenix 01/22/03 BIOS, and Intel 6 Model 8 732 MHz PIII. I just want to know why I have to disable reg checking, and if I can uninstall this, and either go back to the previous version (win98se_sp202en.exe), or just back to good old MS Win98SE? If you want to answer privately, email me at "emarkay_at_email_dot_com" THANK YOU!