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@BeatZero, is this the "Real Mode" Dos patch for Windows ME that you need? http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=11587&pid=101497&st=0entry101497

Beatzero, how did you go with windows95live ?

DOH! sorry, i misunderstood, can you use files from win98se to fix the problem? hexedit the winME files? how does win98 "exit to dos" ?

there sure is: Has Real-mode DOS been removed from Microsoft's Windows ® Millennium Edition? We've been asked this same question many times recently as beta testers review pre-release versions of Windows ME and more and more information leaks out to the general public. Well, the answer is No, Real-mode DOS has not been removed from Windows. Well hidden maybe, and removed from the boot process, but it's still there. Windows ME is still DOS based like its predecessors, but in an effort to speed up the startup process Microsoft has restructured some of the files necessary to allow you to boot to DOS, use config.sys and autoexec.bat files and view and use a boot menu. We have a patch that will modify your "IO.SYS", "COMMAND.COM" and "REGENV32.EXE" files in order to unhide the real-mode DOS in Windows ME systems, thereby providing you with a boot process like that of previous versions of Windows. This will allow you, for example, to reach the DOS boot menu directly by pressing "Shift-F8" at boot-up, and to use "CONFIG.SYS" and "AUTOEXEC.BAT" as part of the startup process before Windows loads. This patch was tested only with the final release of Win ME (build 4.90.3000) and may not be compatible with other pre-release versions. Note: As stated above, this has only been tested on Windows ME version 4.90.3000 U.S. If you are using a Non-US version of Windows ME this patch may not work and may even cause problems. Installation Procedure In order to install this patch correctly, please follow the instructions below explicitly! While these particular instructions refer to "C:\Windows", you should use the specific directory on your computer into which Windows ME was originally installed. Step One: (This can be done in Windows using Windows Explorer) 1. Create two temporary directories on your hard drive such as C:\Temp and C:\Dos_Storage and make sure that both are empty. 2. Download the patch (Real_dos.zip) and unzip the 5 included files into the C:\Temp directory. You should have these 5 files: * autoexec.bat * config.sys * File_id.diz * Mfd.nfo * Winmedos.com 3. Copy the following original Windows ME files into both the C:\Temp and C:\Dos_Storage directories. Their location is already noted for you. * C:\Windows\COMMAND.COM * C:\Windows\Command\EBD\IO.SYS (See the "Notes" below, #4) * C:\Windows\System\REGENV32.EXE 4. Now you will need to make sure that the "R", "H" and "S" attributes have been removed from the 3 files noted above in only the C:\Temp directory. You can do this from within Windows Explorer by right clicking on each file and choosing "Properties", then uncheck any of the attribute boxes, "Read-only", "Hidden" and "Archive", that may be checked and then click "Apply" and then close the box. 5. Next, using Windows Explorer, locate the "WINMEDOS.COM" file from the (Real_dos.zip) you downloaded and unzipped earlier. Double click on "WINMEDOS.COM" to execute it. Do not move to step two unless you are certain that patch completed successfully. Step Two: Once the patch completes successfully, perform the following tasks in order to complete the installation: 1. Copy the following 3 patched files back to their original locations as noted below, overwriting the originals. * Copy "IO.SYS" from the C:\Temp directory to "C:\" * Copy "COMMAND.COM" from C:\Temp to "C:\WINDOWS\" * Copy "COMMAND.COM" from C:\Temp "C:\" * Copy "REGENV32.EXE" from C:\Temp to "C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM" 2. Next, copy the Config.sys from C:\Temp to C:\ and the Autoexec.bat from C:\Temp to C:\ Notes: 1. The Config.sys contained in the Real_dos.zip file contains only this line: "DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS". You may add any other lines to your Config.sys file as long as the above line remains. 2. The Autoexec.bat contained in the Real_dos.zip file contains only this line: "C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM". You may add any other lines to your Autoexec.bat file as long as the above line remains. 3. In the event that you wish to create a startup menu that will permit you to choose between Windows and MS-DOS at startup, it can be done by editing your "Config.sys" and "Autoexec.bat" files. The syntax of the startup menu is identical to the syntax on Win 9x systems. Keep in mind that the option configured to launch Win ME has to include the appropriate lines that load "IFSHLP.SYS" and run "WIN.COM" as noted above. 4. At startup you will see "Starting Windows Emergency Boot". This can be ignored as the patch uses the IO.SYS provided with the Windows ME Emergency Boot Disk. If you have a problem initially with the function of the DOS boot, replace the IO.SYS file as noted above with the one on your Windows ME Startup Boot Disk. During testing, we noted that on occasion the File Protect features built into Windows ME replaced this file during the boot process. 5. Remember! You saved copies of your original files to the C:\Dos_Storage folder you made at the beginning of this feature. To return your system to its original state, copy the 3 changes files from this directory back to their original directories and remove the Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files from the root of your C:\ drive. Disclaimer: We make no warranty of any type or kind with respect to this patch and its use by you or anyone else. Making this change will alter the way your operating system starts and, if done incorrectly, could render your operating system unusable! Copyright ©2000 DEW Associates Corporation. All rights reserved. Your privacy will be respected at all times. Year 2000 Readiness Disclosure. source: http://www.dewassoc.com/support/winme/real_dos.htm ======================================= or try: ======================================= http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&...-8&oe=utf-8

yeah im already onto it, i just installed internet explorer 6 sp1 on windows 98 original, then i copied msoe50.inf and msoe.pnf from the windows\inf directory, then i uninstalled internet explorer 6.0 , rebooted, then i right clicked on msoe50.inf and clicked "install", the installer couldnt find 9xmig.dll so i went to the ie6 install directory but it still couldnt find 9xmig.dll so i used 7zip to extract ALL of the cab files into one directory, then i tried to find 9xmig.dll file , it found the file but it gave a error message " cannot copy 9xmig.dll" ??? thats as far as i got. *i have isolated the files needed to install outlook express on windows 98, if you want to help fix the install errors then here you go: http://www.sendspace.com/file/f1twg5

if you check the "readme" that comes with IEradicator it says: IEradicator disintegrates all versions of Internet Explorer from version 3 to 6 from an existing installation of Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 98SE, Windows Millennium, Windows 2000, Windows 2000sr1. (Windows 2000sr2, XP not currently supported). The removal process eliminates 99% of Internet Explorer's files and registry keys to clear approximately 30MB of disk space. ***The remaining 1% is left behind to maintain compatibility with programs that use the MS HTML layout engine (e.g. Outlook Express). SO does that mean you could create a batch file that does a silent install of internet explorer 6.0sp1 and then silently runs IEradicator so that your left with a working copy of outlook express 6.0 ?

Jaclaz, i always enjoy reading your posts, they are entertaining, informative and thought provoking. i am very willing to try Qemu once i find a working download , found one: http://www.brothersoft.com/qemu-manager-163091.html i didt know that opera had a email client? thanks for the info ( i dont REALLY need a email client, i use gmail mostly which i can get to via Opera or Firefox ). thanks for the link to OE Viewer, it seems to be a handy little app *OK, Qemu Manager boots windows 98 live once you tell the vm to boot from the cd/dvd drive http://osbetaworld.bb2.org/uploads/bb2.org...-1263089328.png

yeah, i should have guessed that outlook express would have a lot of dependencies ( that explains why there isnt a "stand alone" installer for outlook express 6.0, i know that the live cd is only meant to be used for disc maintainence and posssibly data recovery? i just thought a few extra apps would be good, anyways, thanks for your reply

DEMO VIDEO: @beatzero, do you think think you would be able to make a "live" version of windows ME? oh and could you PLEASE include a copy of firefix 2 portable version, also would outlook express or thunderbird work? it would be good if you could include a email client?

ok, it takes a while to boot ( i think next time i try a bigger ram disk, maybe 48 megabytes is a BIT to small, lol ) , the default wallpaper is COOL!, anyone used to winvista or win7 will like the new explorer, i didnt get opera to run but they might because i got too impatient? irfanview worked fine, explorer worked fine, notepad worked fine, i think its time to add some portable apps!!!!!!!!!! p.s. there just might a demo video coming soon

ha-ha-ha, ok, i will try again *ok, i made a quick diagram about configuring the settings for win98builder: http://osbetaworld.bb2.org/uploads/bb2.org...-1262929400.gif

booting in vmware now why are the menu's in spanish? i used a english cd.

um, i got a problem , i tried the iso in qemu, the files decompress and then i get a black screen and thats it? i did tick the "include explorer" box, does that make a difference? thanks.

THANKS , its working now.