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6 hours ago, Tsundere said:
So not even the intel driver (iaiosd)?
The situation is unclear.
Is Disk 0 the eMMC disk?
Then iaiosd can find the disk, but diskpart.exe is confused, a list detail should work and a list par should find existing partittions. Strange.
A clean could work and clean the disk, Win 8.1 is gone. Not a good idea currently. Windows 7 installation is questionable still.Or Disk 0 is a ghost disk.
Jumping to USB boot next? This may help do solve the eMMC controller driver riddle.
There is a "Windows 7 USB 3.0 Creator Utility". Let's try this one, there are different drivers included.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25476/Windows-7-USB-3-0-Creator-Utility
Read Win7-USB3.0-Creator-Readme-v3.pdf page 1,
1. Create a USB flash drive installer
2. Run the UtilityBoot boot.wim from this created USB flash drive.
Does diskpart.exe list the USB flash drive?0 -
There is no working driver at default windows 7 install.wim for the eMMC storage controller. A BSOD is very likely.
Currently there is no known working driver at all.
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3 hours ago, Tsundere said:
Do I add it to the existing code or do I delete everything under ;Baytrail and paste it?
Replace the privious file. Start using a original iaiosd.inf,
This is part of the original file,
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F50Insert the addional lines after PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16 to get the result
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PNP0D40As for testing, it's about boot.wim so far. Take small steps.
Boot the edited boot.wim. Does diskpart.exe detect the eMMC now?0 -
37 minutes ago, Tsundere said:
I think I've been using that code this whole time.
No, there is a difference: iaiosd.inf refers a iaiosd_Device and a iaioeMMC_Device:
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PNP0D40
is not
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PNP0D40
This enable the parameter EMMCBoot.Try the iaioeMMC_Device.
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On 11.6.2016 at 5:04 PM, Tsundere said:
When I tried to boot the elements, [start loop] I got the "Starting Windows" with 4 coloured dots (win7). The 4 dots starting moving together then the laptop suddenly reboots and goes into Win 8.1.
That's bad news: most likely a BSOD 0x7b missing boot device.
Native USB boot approach failed: driver, BIOS CSM oder timing issue.
Timing issue could be resolved at Start=0 and group setting. Difficult to debug.But reviewing previous behaviour, we are jumping back to the eMMC approach:
There was no micro SD Card without iaiosd.sys.
There is a micro SD Card with iaiosd.sys.
iaiosd.inf refers a iaiosd_Device and a iaioeMMC_Device.
Let's try the eMMC one, I should have prefered this initially.[INTEL.NTx86]
;Baytrail
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, ACPI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PNP0D40
%iaioeMMC.DeviceDesc%=iaioeMMC_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F50Can you create a new boot.wim? And be aware to use ForceUnsigned.
Does diskpart list the eMMC disk now?0 -
5 hours ago, Tsundere said:
So I should try to install win7 ON an external disk (wintousb?)?
Yes, Win7 on an external disk: on the USB WD Elements.
No, not wintousb: this dosn't support Intel USB 3.0 driver stack.
Follow given suggestions, especial the fix_USB3_SD.cmd command.
This set Intel USB 3.0 driver bootable stack.0 -
I would create a RAW image anyway. Better to be safe.
The Windows 7 diskpart did not list the WD disk.
Did you connect the WD passport at all?A driver package to the eMMC is missing still.
So try USB first, then validate driver to the eMMC from running Windows 7.Try install Windows 7 x86 to the USB WD elements.
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15 hours ago, Tsundere said:
I think the recent success is largely due to the usb 3.0 drivers
Sorry for the confusion, currently both eMMC and USB 3.0 are a target.
Let's jump to USB 3.0 boot then.
I understand: the Lexar USB works, the WD USB dosn't work.
Most likely the Lexar USB is a removable disk and the WD USB a fixed disk.
Do you have another fixed USB disk?Try another fixed USB disk. Does diskpart list this disk?
Backup the files, w'll clean the USB disk.As for intermedia testing, you may try the Lexar USB too.
Should survive first boot.Boot Windows 8.1,
Z:\sources\install.wim : default Windows 7 install file
C:\drivers\Win7_x86\USB3 : Windows 7 USB3 driversdiskpart.exe
list disk
sel disk Number
detail disk
clean
create par prim
format fs ntfs quick
active
assign letter=U
exitDISM.exe /Apply-Image /ImageFile:Z:\sources\install.wim /Index:3 /ApplyDir:U:\
bcdboot.exe U:\Windows /s U: /f BIOSDism.exe /image:U:\ /Add-Driver /driver:C:\drivers\Win7_x86\USB3 /recurse /ForceUnsigned
Dism.exe /image:U:\ /Get-Drivers /Format:Tablefix_USB3_SD.cmd U:\Windows
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1 hour ago, Tripredacus said:
Disk 0 could very well be a card reader. On some systems, card reader without media inserted can sometimes be detected and sometimes even get a drive letter. Often times I see card reader showing up, it will have the same size numbers as the USB key I use to boot.
Thanks for the explanation. This matches to the diskpart view: no partitons listed.
1 hour ago, Tsundere said:I see. So a windows system image backup + recovery drive is not sufficient right?
Wimboot is a special feature.
I doubt windows system image, may work or fail. Or restore to a non wimboot configuration.
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn594399.aspxDo you have another USB stick, different size, e.g. 16gb? Does Disk 0 list a 16 gb media, given a empty card reader?
Do you have a micro sd card? Can you insert the sd card? Does diskpart list the sd card?
A raw image is the basic approach. Works more likely that way.
Try dsfo, should run at a Windows 8 installation media.
And convert the image to VHD image using clonedisk.
Then mount the VHD image at Windows 8.1 disk manager.
There should be a new GPT disk with several partitions.Added:
HP PCs - Creating WIMboot recovery media
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1 hour ago, Tsundere said:
However it seems he is saying that I cannot install 32-bit win7, only 64-bit because my motherboard is uefi-based.
You cannot install 32-bit win7 in UEFI mode, but you can install 32-bit win7 in CSM mode. Your machine offers this choice.
And the machine does not offer a USB 2.0 port, the documentation is misleading. There are USB 3.0 ports only.Strange still: Disk 0 29 GB 29 GB free
If this is the windows 8.1 UEFI disk, then diskpart should list several partitions.
One FAT32 EFI, a MSR, a wimboot OS one and a recovery with install.wim and a custom.wim.Make a disk image first: Clonedisk can do this.
http://labalec.fr/erwan/?page_id=42
Do you have a WinPE available?
Backup a raw disk image.No idea, which raw image program works from a Windows 8.1 install media, shift F10 command console.
I'll search.Do not continue Windows 7 so far. The final result is uncertain and may fail.
Restoring Windows 8 to a clean disk is the next task.
Continue Windows 7 then:http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04501162
Spare part number 792785-001:
System board equipped with an Intel Celeron N2840 processor with 2 GB system memory, 32 GB eMMC hard drive,
and the Windows 7 or non-Windows operating systems (includes thermal grease and thermal pads)Spare part number 792785-501:
System board equipped with an Intel Celeron N2840 processor with 2 GB system memory, 32 GB eMMC hard drive,
and the Windows 8.1 Standard operating system (includes thermal grease and thermal padsSome driver hints:
Start at laptop manufacturer offer for Windows 8.1
http://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/HP-Stream-13-Notebook-PC/7372147/model/7527435E.g. Intel Chipset Installation Utility and Driver
Run 7-zip, extract sp69111.exe. View the files. There is a folder \WIN7.
Make preddy good guess: this chipset driver package works at Windows 7 too.Play a game:
Try all HP Stream Notebook - 13-c004tu Windows 8.1 drivers.
First the Chipset driver.
Next Intel Embedded Drivers for Windows 7
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24548/
Add the rest HP drivers.View the device manager now.
What's yellow marked? Read the HardareID and the Compatible ID.
E.g. the USB 3.0 controller is not installed.0 -
@Tsundere
Yes, list dispart disk details.
sel disk 0
det disk
list par
sel disk 1
det disk
list par
list volBreak, this looks suspicious:
Disk 0 29 GB 29 GB free
Disk 1 29 GB 0 GB free
Are Disk 0 and Disk 1 equal? Are there two disks?
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5 hours ago, Tsundere said:
-It was connected to usb 2.0
That's strange. The device is connected to a USB 3.0 controller.
A USB 2.0 port should be connected to a USB 2.0 controller. Strange HP?Include Intel USB 3.0 drivers to boot.wim image 2.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/de/download/22824
Version 4.0.4.51 contains %IUsb3XhcDeviceDesc01% = IUsb3XhcModel, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F35, hence they should match.
Boot boot.wim. Does diskpart.exe detects different USB disks now?0 -
1 hour ago, Tsundere said:
-The pdf seems to imply that they only are only needed at install.wim, but I will try it.
- I can't find usb 3.0 drivers anywhere, it doesn't sesm to be listed in my device manager or hp support site. But the laptop does have a usb3.0 port.
Why did you add drivers to install.wim initially?
The pdf describes to boot from boot.wim and load driver iaosd.sys manually. This failed.If you integrate the driver to boot.wim, then the driver is loaded automatically.
May be a timing isssue. Then you don't have to load the driver manually.Scroll back two days ago, there is a device manager picture: Intel USB 3.0 controller.
List the USB 3.0 controller HardwareID.Does device manager list USB 3.0 controller, if no USB 3.0 port is used?
Did you connect the WD to USB 3.0 port or USB 2.0 port making the picture?
Make another picture, if a USB disk is connected to USB 2.0 only.WD SES device is strange, parallel to WD My Passport.
Should not matter, but it's about booting: try another USB disks too.
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1 hour ago, Tsundere said:
So I had an idea, and I slipstreamed the iaiosd driver into install.wim and re-made the live usb using standard procedures.
Windows setup are loaded from the file boot.wim
Slipstream the drivers to boot.wim.Is the wireless mouse/keyboard connected to a USB port?
Can you disable the xhci mode at UEFI/CSM, to disable USB 3.0 mode?Try slipstream the USB 3.0 drivers too.
The drivers goes to boot.wim and to install.wim.
The real cuplrit can be the UEFI/CSM.
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On 5/30/2016 at 8:53 AM, monroe said:
So then my question about the above USB 3.0 driver listed for the ThinkPad W510, W701, W701ds computers ... having one of those Thinkpads with XP installed ... there would still be no USB 3.0 working in one of those computers with XP installed ? ... only USB 2.0 ?
That's an Intel chipset without a USB 3.0 controller.
There is an additional NEC USB controller. NEC does provide XP 32-bit and XP 64-bit drivers.
USB 3.0 in an of itself works on XP, both XP 32-bit and XP 64-bit.1 -
On 28.5.2016 at 9:03 PM, cdob said:
Intel Embedded Drivers for Windows 7
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24548/User Guide for Windows 7 IO Atom E3800 MR4_PUBLIC.pdf
2.3.8 How to Install Windows 7 32-bit into SD and eMMC Storage Devices
2.3.9 How to Install Windows 7 64-bit on to SD and eMMC storage devices
Use section 2.3.8. Windows 7 32-bit works with default boot.wim.
Try this at CSM first. Be aware: this is exprimental, neither hardware manufactuer nor operating manufacturer supports this.
Edit iaiosd.inf in addition, insert the hardare id[INTEL.NTx86] ;Baytrail %iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16 %iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14 %iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14 %iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, ACPI\PNP0D40 %iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\PNP0D40 %iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PNP0D40
Next step:
Windows 7 64-bit works with edited boot.wim.
Try both CSM and UEFI mode.1 -
9 hours ago, Tsundere said:
-When I open command prompt during win7 setup and do diskpart, list disk.
Well, diskpart.exe should list the disk first. WinNTSetup won't detect a disk too, don't try this currently.
Just curious: did you used a USB 2.0 port?Next idea: integrate Intel USB 3.0 drivers to Windows 7 boot.wim, and use a USB 3.0 port.
Add and Remove Drivers to an Offline Windows Image: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825070.aspx
Does diskpart.exe find a disk now?Or:
Attach a USB drive to the USB 2.0 port.
Open windows 8 device manger, change view 'Devices per connection'.
Navigate to your USB drive.
Which parent devices are listed between the USB drive and the pci bus?
There is a details tab at device manger:
can you list the HardareID, CompatibleID and inf name of each device?0 -
5 hours ago, Tsundere said:
Win7 does not recognize other usb drives/externals either,
Which part dosn't detect a USB drive?
Does Windows 7 diskpart list a device?
Windows 7 setup won't detect a USB drive. Use another approach: WinNTSetup and enable native USB Windows 70 -
9 hours ago, Tsundere said:
The 32gb emmc (called samsung mbg4gc) is under the following: http://imgur.com/EYunsvT
Technically, you don't need drivers for the emmc, it's a disk: windows provides drivers for the disk.
However you neeed driver for the controller and bus.HP Stream Notebook PC 13
Maintenance and Service Guide
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04501162
http://binarydb.com/driver/Intel(R)-Celeron(R)%2FPentium(R)-Storage-Control-Cluster--_-_-0F14-263046.html
Device class: SDHost
Services: sdbus
HardwareIDs: ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14 ACPI\80860F14 *80860F14
CompatibleIDs: ACPI\PNP0D40 PNP0D40PNP0D40 is a HardwareID newly created for use with SoC platforms.
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/drivers/bringup/device-management-namespace-objects
http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/6/1/161ba512-40e2-4cc9-843a-923143f3456c/devids.txt
PNP0D40 SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller
Windows 8 sdbus.inf
[Generic.NTx86]
%PCI\CC_080500.DeviceDesc%=SDHost, PCI\CC_080500
%PCI\CC_080501.DeviceDesc%=SDHost, PCI\CC_080501
%ACPI\PNP0D40.DeviceDesc%=SDHost, ACPI\PNP0D40[Intel.NTx86]
%ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14%=SDHostIntelBayTrail, ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
Windows 7 Embedded supports SD boot:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/4/C/34CD624B-DFB9-44A8-92C0-4F9CF3678523/WE-Standard7-Datasheet-final.pdf
SD Boot with Windows Embedded Standard SP1.
A Windows 7 sdbus.inf dosn't list a PNP0D40, there is no generic Windows 7 driver.
Windows 7 default driver sdbus.sys may work at a PNP0D40. Or the driver may fail.
Intel Embedded Drivers for Windows 7
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24548/
A Celeron N2930 is supported. That's almost a Celeron N2840.
iaiosd.inf
[INTEL.NTx86]
;Baytrail
%iaiosd.DeviceDesc%=iaiosd_Device, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16
iaiosd.DeviceDesc = "Intel(R) Atom(TM)/Celeron(R)/Pentium(R) Processor SD Host Controller"PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F16 dosn't match ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14, but both are bay trail architecture.
Hence iaiosd.sys may work at given hardware.
Overall:
go for USB boot first
try different SD drivers next: Windows 7 or Windows Embedded 7 ones
if eMMc works, swap installation from USB to eMMc
or go for SATA
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HP+Stream+13+Disassembly+for+Upgrading+the+PCIe+mini+SSD/553530 -
21 hours ago, Tsundere said:
the internal hdd is 32GB eMMc (a kind of SD flash drive).
I understand: windows detects a SD flash drive and uses SD card drivers.
Can you verify:
Open windows 8 device manger, change view 'Devices per connection'.Is the eMMc connected to a SD Host Controller and a SD Storage Class Controller?
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52 minutes ago, Tsundere said:
DriverList.txt
< Intel SD Host Controller >
Hardware ID: ACPI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F14
< SD Storage Class Controller >
Hardware ID: SD\CLASS_MMCDoes the generic HardwareID 'PCI\CC_0805' matches the SD Host Controller too?
Windows 7 uses another SD driver stack, compare XP file names https://support.microsoft.com/kb/934428
A historic BartPE example http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=23723
Idea:
boot a Windows 8 install dvd,
dism apply the windows 7 install.wim,
run bcdboot
include SD drivers and adjust boot settings
No hardare to test, may work or fail.Back to USB boot, driver are not enabled by default. Enable them: run set_7_usb_boot.cmd
http://reboot.pro/topic/14186-usb-hdd-boot-and-windows-7-sp1/#entry127772
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4 hours ago, Xenithar said:
I can do that, but I thought that it was automatic.
Oh, and it seems that the WIM size is capped at 768MiB. Go over that and it starts freezing. For those who want to know.
I don't know know how to configure this.
QuoteI'd also like it to be on the disc (inside the ISO) if possible.
Manually:
create a folder \Make_PE3\zzz_add\x86\Drivers
copy driver files to \Make_PE3\zzz_add\x86\DriversMake a 7 pe iso at MakePE3
Make another iso
makebt\mkisofs.exe -v -iso-level 4 -l -joliet-long -volid "PE3" -b boot/etfsboot.com -no-emul-boot -hide boot.catalog -duplicates-once -force-uppercase -o win7pe_x86\PE3.ISO win7pe_x86\ISO zzz_add\x86QuoteQuoteOh, and it seems that the WIM size is capped at 768MiB.
Here works a 894 MiB boot.wim at VMware Player, 1.4 GiB RAM attached to the machine. The task manager lists 1.1 GiB RAM used.
A boot.wim greater 1 GIB freeze after loading to RAM. Bootmgr, ramdisk.sys or another driver are limited.
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9 minutes ago, Xenithar said:
Where do I put these drivers to get them loaded? Say I have a 400MiB ISO with core drivers ONLY in them. I am imagining I need to open that ISO and somehow place a drivers folder on its root, then burn it do CD/DVD.
I understand that PE3 can load these automatically, I just have no clue where to place them so it all works.
What about:
write the 400MiB ISO to a cd
use a addional USB sick, copy and expand the drivers to <USB stick>\drivers\
Boot the CD. Launch 'Driverpacks from folder' and select the \drivers\ folder.0 -
Standalone WinUSB installer for XP:
First:
Get winusbcoinstaller2.dllIt's part of Windows Driver Kit
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=11800
\WDK\wcoinstallers_cab001.cabOr latest_usb_driver_windows.zip
http://developer.android.com/sdk/win-usb.html
Run 7-zip, extract i386\winusbcoinstaller2.dll
Next:
Run 7-zip, expand winusbcoinstaller2.dll
Run update\update.exe0
Desperate to install/use Windows 7. Help
in Windows 7
Posted · Edited by cdob
Run the "Windows 7 USB 3.0 Creator Utility" and open boot.wim at 7-zip next.
Does exist \Windows\system32\drivers\iusb3xhc.sys and iusb3hub.sys?
If not then, integrate the "Windows 7 USB 3.0 Creator Utility" drivers manually.
Two drivers are added: x64\iusb3hub.inf and x64\iusb3xhc.inf
Do you have more testing USB sticks? There are native MMC and SD drivers at Windows 7.
However these drivers are older than eMMC, eMMC is not supported. May work or fail, it's a long shot.