well it's been quite some time without longhorn, and ALAS, I still have the problem with even the latest build 5259? Whatever. Anyways, I googled the problem and it brought me right back to where I started;here. Same proglem with the WLAN card. **** broadcom. 43xx drivers is what Windows XP reports. When I install the windows xp drivers, Longhorn..er VISTA, freezes and I have to hit the kill switch on my box. I'm downloading the WLAN driver pack that was mentioned in this thread to see if it works, I don't expect much home from it, but we'll see. IndustrialAeon: Yes, I have come to that. I have Installed SUSE OSS 10 on a PIII 900Mhz pc to learn, and I am liking it. I am just getting used to KDE and the small commands that Linux guru's take for granted. LOL When i'm confortable with the graphical interface and other parts of the os, such as what files mean what, the filesystem etc, then i'll probably dig deeper into learning the console. But I must say, Linux has come along way, I remember always trying it out and ditching it over and over again over the past years, just because it wasn't meant for n00bs like myself. At least with SUSE 10, it's making it fun and interesting for me that I want to learn more. so kudo's to that. anyways, that's it for the update. bye.