Hi, Have had 2 problems with the 823718 update (MS03-033: Security Update for Microsoft Data Access Components ) which will open up a window and you have to say ok to it and the windows xp journal viewer which I can't seem to get to do a silent install? anyone else having problems with the switches on these? and one unrelated question... what happens when you install a hotfix or update when it's already been installed? does it check and then abort or does it just reinstall over the top of it again? and harm in running scripts where several of the updates/hotfixes have already been installed? Thanks CR